Find Area of ∫ (1 + √(9 - x^2))dx [-3,0]

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The problem involves finding the area under the curve defined by the integral ∫ (1 + √(9 - x^2))dx from -3 to 0. The subject area pertains to calculus, specifically integration and the evaluation of definite integrals.

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  • Participants discuss the use of Riemann sums versus antiderivatives for solving the integral. There are questions about the appropriate methods for evaluating the integral, including potential trigonometric substitutions and geometric interpretations of the graph of y = √(9 - x^2).

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different methods to approach the integral. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of antiderivatives and the suggestion to split the integral into two parts. There is also an emphasis on visualizing the graph to aid in understanding the problem.

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Participants are considering various methods of integration, including trigonometric substitution and geometric reasoning, while also questioning the appropriateness of using Riemann sums for this particular problem.

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Find area of: ∫ (1 + √(9 - x^2))dx [-3,0]

Solution:

∫ (1 + √(9 - (x - 3)^2))dx [0,3]

= ∫ (1 + √(x)*√(6-x))dx [0,3]

Δx = 3/n

Ʃ√(3i/n)*Ʃ√(6 - 3i/n) +Ʃ 1 i = 1, n = n

I am stuck right here... I know that the notation for a constant is 1(n)..

but is there one for a square root? Would is be (n(n+1)/2)^(1/2) ?
 
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No, it wouldn't. I don't think you want to try and do this one with Riemann sums. That gets to be way too hard. There's an easier way. Do you know what an antiderivative is?
 
Dick said:
No, it wouldn't. I don't think you want to try and do this one with Riemann sums. That gets to be way too hard. There's an easier way. Do you know what an antiderivative is?

Yes I know what that is how would I use the antiderivative to solve this?
 
Miike012 said:
Yes I know what that is how would I use the antiderivative to solve this?

Split the integral into two parts. The 1 part should be easy. The second one you can do with a trig substitution, if you've cover that. If you haven't, maybe you are expected to use geometry. What does the graph y=sqrt(9-x^2) look like?
 
I know all my trig derivatives...

the two parts are...

1 + (u)^(1/2)
u = 9 - x^2
Is this what your asking for?

And here is a rough sketch of the graph...
 

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Miike012 said:
I know all my trig derivatives...

the two parts are...

1 + (u)^(1/2)
u = 9 - x^2
Is this what your asking for?

And here is a rough sketch of the graph...

Just that substitution won't quite do it. You need something like x=3*sin(t). And the graph is a good start. The more you improve it, the more it will look like a half-circle.
 
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