Find cartesian equation from parametric equation

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The problem involves finding a Cartesian equation from given parametric equations defined by \(x = \tan(t) - 1\) and \(y = \cot^2(t) + 1\). Participants are exploring the relationship between the parameters and the resulting Cartesian form.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss rearranging the first equation to express \(t\) in terms of \(x\) and substituting it into the equation for \(y\). There is also a realization of misreading the original equations, prompting a reevaluation of the solution process.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the correct interpretation of the equations and have begun to derive the Cartesian form. However, there is still some confusion regarding the handling of terms in the equations, particularly the constant added to \(y\).

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the extent of guidance provided. There is an ongoing discussion about the accuracy of the parametric equations and their implications for the Cartesian form.

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Homework Statement


A curve is defined by the parametric equations:

$$x=tan(t-1)\ \ \ \ \ \ \ y=cot^2(t+1)$$

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The Attempt at a Solution



I think rearranging the first equation for t gives:

$$t=tan^{-1}(x)+1$$

However that doesn't help me as I don't know how to simplify the equation I'd get if I sub t into the y equation?
 
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Do you have to simplify the equation? You found an equation y=f(x).
 
mfb said:
Do you have to simplify the equation? You found an equation y=f(x).

I actually just realized that I've misread the equations so I can see how to solve it now.

The equations should be:

$$x=tan(t)-1\qquad y=cot^2(t)+1$$

So the solution would be:

$$tan(t)=x+1$$
$$y=\frac{1}{tan^2(t)}$$
$$y=\frac{1}{(x+1)^2}$$
 
trollcast said:
I actually just realized that I've misread the equations so I can see how to solve it now.

The equations should be:

$$x=tan(t)-1\qquad y=cot^2(t)+1$$

So the solution would be:

$$tan(t)=x+1$$
$$y=\frac{1}{tan^2(t)}$$
$$y=\frac{1}{(x+1)^2}$$

What happened to the '+1' in ##y=cot^2(t)+1##?
 
Dick said:
What happened to the '+1' in ##y=cot^2(t)+1##?

Oops, so it should be:

$$x=tan(t)-1\qquad y=cot^2(t)+1\\
tan(t)=x+1\\

y - 1=\frac{1}{tan^2(t)}\\
y=\frac{1}{(x+1)^2} +1\\
y=\frac{(x+1)^2+1}{(x+1)^2}$$
 
trollcast said:
Oops, so it should be:

$$x=tan(t)-1\qquad y=cot^2(t)+1\\
tan(t)=x+1\\

y - 1=\frac{1}{tan^2(t)}\\
y=\frac{1}{(x+1)^2} +1\\
y=\frac{(x+1)^2+1}{(x+1)^2}$$

Sure.
 

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