Finding the Particle's Path: Graphing a Cartesian Equation

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The discussion revolves around identifying the particle's path by deriving a Cartesian equation from the given parametric equations, specifically \(x=2\sinh t\) and \(y=2\cosh t\), with \(t\) ranging from \(-\infty\) to \(\infty\). Participants are exploring the nature of the resulting graph and its characteristics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the transformation of the parametric equations into a Cartesian form and question the correctness of the derived equations. There is exploration of the properties of the hyperbolic functions involved and their implications for the graph's shape.

Discussion Status

There is an active examination of the derived equations, with some participants suggesting corrections and others confirming the nature of the graph as a hyperbola rather than a parabola. Multiple interpretations are being explored regarding the equations and their graphical representations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential typos in the equations and question the assumptions about the graph's shape based on the properties of hyperbolic functions. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the mathematical relationships involved.

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Homework Statement


Identify the particle's path by finding a Cartesian equation for it . Graph the Cartesian equation . indicate the portion of the graph traced by the particle .
##x=2sinh t## , ##y=2cosh t## , ##-\infty < t < \infty##

Homework Equations


##cosh^2 t - sinh^2 t = 1##

The Attempt at a Solution


##sinh t = \frac{x}{2}##
Square both sides :
##sinh^2 t = \frac{x^2}{4}## (1)
##cosh t = \frac{y}{2}##
Square both sides :
##cosh^2 t = \frac{y^2}{4}## (2)
(2) - (1) :
##cosh^2 t - sinh^2 t = 1##
##\frac{y^2}{4} - \frac{x^2}{4} = 1##
put x= 0 → y=±2
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Fatima Hasan said:
Is my answer correct ?

What do you know about the possible values of ##\cosh t## for ##-\infty < t < \infty##?
 
George Jones said:
What do you know about the possible values of ##\cosh t## for ##-\infty < t < \infty##?
The Cartesian equation forms a parbola opening up . Right ?
 
I just noticed something else.
$$\frac{x^2}{4} - \frac{y^2}{4} =1$$
is not correct, but I think this is a "typo".
 
Fatima Hasan said:
The Cartesian equation forms a parbola opening up . Right ?
No. The graph you show is not a parabola.
 
Fatima Hasan said:
Identify the particle's path by finding a Cartesian equation for it .
Graph the Cartesian equation . indicate the portion of the graph traced by the particle .
##x=2sinh t## , ##y=2cosh2## , ##-\infty < t < \infty##
Should the second equation be ##y = 2\cosh(t)##?
 
Mark44 said:
Should the second equation be ##y = 2\cosh(t)##?
yeah
 
I agree with @George Jones's comment in post #4.
Fatima Hasan said:
(2) - (1) :
##cosh^2 t - sinh^2 t = 1##
##\frac{x^2}{4} - \frac{y^2}{4} = 1##
Take a closer look at the work I've quoted above.
 
##\frac{y^2}{4} - \frac{x^2}{4}## forms a hyperbola and to graph it , we should go 2 units up from center point .
##cosh ( t) ## for ##-\infty < t < \infty## is always positive .
 
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Mark44 said:
I agree with @George Jones's comment in post #4.
Take a closer look at the work I've quoted above.
##\frac{y^2}{4} - \frac{x^2}{4} = 1##
 
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Fatima Hasan said:
##\frac{y^2}{4} - \frac{x^2}{4} = 1##
Yes, that looks better.
 
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Fatima Hasan said:
##\frac{y^2}{4} - \frac{x^2}{4} = 1## forms a hyperbola

Yes, a big hint is given by the names of the functions in the original equations. :wink::biggrin:
 
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Mark44 said:
Yes, that looks better.
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Is it correct ?
 

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Is it correct ?
No.
The equation ##\frac{y^2}{4} - \frac{x^2}{4} = 1## is NOT a parabola. The graph you showed appears to be the graph of ##y = x^2 + 2##, which is completely unrelated to your equation.
 
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Mark44 said:
The equation ##\frac{y^2}{4} - \frac{x^2}{4} = 1## is NOT a parabola.
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Mark44 said:
Bingo!
(Meaning, yes, that's it.)
Thanks for your help.
 

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