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The discussion focuses on methods to determine the density of a plastic ball using basic physics principles. Key techniques include measuring the period of vibration of the ball when attached to a ruler, which relates to its mass through simple harmonic motion. Additionally, methods such as rolling the ball down an incline to calculate its moment of inertia and using Stokes flow to measure terminal velocity in water are suggested. These approaches allow for accurate mass and density calculations without requiring direct measurements of mass.

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I remember my friend telling me once about this task in his physics competition. I had forgotten about it and remembered last night taking a shower. Started thinking but couldn't figure it out. Maybe you can help?

So you are given a small plastic ball, a ruler and a timer. Find the density of the ball. (I don't know if its full plastic or filled with air).

Finding cubage is easy. But finding the mass?

First I thougth that maybe I could find the mass with Ek=m*v(scuared)/2 or Ep=mgh, but you don't have neither of the E's (at least I don't think it was given).
So how do you get it? (Hope its not too simple because then I would looks really stupid again).

Thanks in advance,
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Here's the method that is used to determine mass in orbit, in, say, the space station.

Attach the ball to one end of the ruler. Hold the other end firmly or clamp it to something and start the ball vibrating. The period of vibration will be proportional to the square root of the mass. Of course, you will need some known mass to compare to in order to be able to specify the mass of the ball.
 
HallsofIvy said:
The period of vibration will be proportional to the square root of the mass.

what equation is that? or is it?
 
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yes the concept described appears to be simple harmonics when you talk about the period of an oscillation. hmmm, remind me if I'm wrong but mass is not in the period of an ocsillation in simple harmonics

T = 2(pi)(sq. root)(length/g)
 
Northern expo> You can replace the (length/g) with (mass/k) where k is the 'spring constant'
 
Ok, what equation is that? (Yes, srsly, I don't know).
 
What about rolling it down a measured incline, timing it, and using that to calculate the moment of inertia? The moment of inertia will tell you if it is a solid sphere or a shell.

Or, let the ball rise/sink in a tub of water: if terminal velocity is reached, you can calculate the mass of the ball using Stokes flow; that plus the volume gives the density.

I'm sure there's other ways...
 

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