Find Derivative of f(x) = x - \sqrt{x}

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function f(x) = x - √x, utilizing various approaches and mathematical concepts related to differentiation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the limit definition of the derivative and express uncertainty in applying it effectively. Some suggest using binomial expansion or the power rule as alternative methods. Others explore the implications of differentiating both sides of an equation involving square roots.

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The conversation reflects a range of attempts to tackle the problem, with some participants sharing their struggles and insights. A few have indicated potential methods while others express frustration with the complexity of the limit definition. There is no clear consensus on the best approach yet, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants mention constraints such as the requirement to avoid shortcuts and the challenges of working through derivatives without relying on established rules. There is also a reference to previous experiences with similar problems in a testing context.

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Homework Statement


f(x) = x - \sqrt{x}

Homework Equations


f'(x) = \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(a+h)-f(a)}{h}

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I'm not exactly sure how to solve this problem. I plugged the problem into the equation and got stuck... I have a class right now, so I'll have to post my work later.
 
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It's not easy to find the derivative of sqrt(x) in that way. (You can't use a Taylor expansion- because that makes use of the answer.)

I think you have to do a binomial expansion of sqrt(x)
http://www.rism.com/Trig/binomial.htm

There may be a very easy solution- but I don't see it.
 
Duh, wait a minute...

if g(x)=x^1/2, then g(x)^2=x. Now take derivatives of both sides- which can be proved to give:

2g(x)dg(x)/dx=1

dg(x)/dx=1./2g(x)=1/2 (x^-1/2)

So a method which is a little easier involves proving
d[g(x)^2]/dx=2g(x)dg(x)/dx, for any fn. g(x)
 
I just tried it and got a wrong answer. Your goal is the get everything in the numerator so that it has an h in it. That way u can cancel out the h on the bottom.
 
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Using the limit definition is so tedious :(
 
Got it...working on the tex
 
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Well, I read one chapter a head so I figured out how to do it using the power rule.. :-/ it's a way easier that way.
 
My comp. is being stupid so I can't write the whole thing =\ I had a test once where we had to do a lot of those derivatives without the shortcuts. U can solve it that way by multiplying both the numerator and the denominator by \sqrt{x+h}+\sqrt{x}\\

edit: yay my comp is working let's give this another try

<br /> \[\lim_{h \to 0}\frac{x+h+\sqrt{x+h}-x-\sqrt{x}}{h}\]<br /> &amp; =\]\lim_{h \to 0}\frac{h+\sqrt{x+h}-\sqrt{x}}{h}\]<br /> &amp; =\[\lim_{h \to 0}\frac{h(\sqrt{x+h}+\sqrt{x})+x+h-x}{h(\sqrt{x+h}+\sqrt{x})}\]<br /> &amp; =\[\lim_{h \to 0}\frac{h(\sqrt{x+h}+\sqrt{x})+h}{h(\sqrt{x+h}+\sqrt{x})}\]<br /> &amp; =\[\lim_{h \to 0}1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{x+h}+\sqrt{x}}\]<br /> &amp; =\[1+\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}\]<br />

Damn I suck at this.
 
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ok, I'll have to practice that one. :) thanks
 
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U can also use the addition rules of limits to calculate derivatives for x and sqrt x separately and then add them.
 

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