Find direction of current in a magnetic field

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The discussion revolves around determining the direction of current in a magnetic field created by two parallel wires carrying the same current. The current must flow out of the paper to achieve a zero net magnetic flux density at point P, which is closer to wire R, indicating a stronger field from that wire. When the current is increased, the neutral point P will move towards wire R, as the stronger field will attract it further. Additionally, a second neutral point exists to the left of wire Q, as the fields from both wires must sum to counter the uniform field. Understanding the relationship between current, distance, and magnetic field strength is crucial for solving these types of problems.
  • #31
Doc Al said:
When the current is increased, you need to also increase r if you want to keep the B constant.

But we have two wires to worry about. We're trying to find the point where the combined field from the wires cancels the uniform field. It used to be point P, but then they went and increased the current on us.
But you said that B doesn't equal to zero, and now you say that the combined field from the wires cancels the uniform field.

Doc Al said:
Good! So which direction will the new 'neutral point' be?
Closer to R?
 
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  • #32
moenste said:
But you said that B doesn't equal to zero
The B from the two wires doesn't equal zero.
moenste said:
and now you say that the combined field from the wires cancels the uniform field.
That's right.

moenste said:
Closer to R?
Just the opposite. The field from the wires is proportional to I * (1/rQ - 1/rR). Since I is increasing, and we want B to remain the same, we need (1/rQ - 1/rR) to decrease.
 
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  • #33
Doc Al said:
Just the opposite. The field from the wires is proportional to I * (1/rQ - 1/rR). Since I is increasing, and we want B to remain the same, we need (1/rQ - 1/rR) to decrease.
1 / 0.8 - 1 / 0.2 = - 3.75

1 / 0.9 - 1 / 0.1 = -8.89

1 / 0.7 - 1 / 0.3 = -1.9.

If we want it to increase, we need to increase the distance from Q. Therefore P goes closer tto R.
 
  • #34
moenste said:
If we want it to increase, we need to increase the distance from Q. Therefore P goes closer tto R.
That's true, but we want that factor to decrease, not increase.
 
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  • #35
Doc Al said:
That's true, but we want that factor to decrease, not increase.
Thank you, I think somehow I got it.
 

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