Find electric field strength between disks

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The problem involves calculating the electric field strength between two charged disks and determining the launch speed of a proton moving from one disk to the other. The disks are specified to have diameters of 2.0 cm and are separated by a distance of 1.0 mm, with one disk charged negatively and the other positively.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of electric field strength using the formula involving charge, permittivity, and area. There are questions about unit conversions and the accuracy of numerical results.
  • Some participants suggest using energy conservation principles to find the launch speed of the proton, while others question the use of field strength in the acceleration formula.
  • There is a focus on ensuring proper unit representation and the significance of maintaining powers of ten in calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods and addressing potential errors in calculations. Some guidance has been provided regarding unit conversions and the need to clarify the use of formulas, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or final answers.

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Homework Statement



Two 2.0cm diameter disks face each other, 1.0mm apart. They are charged to -10nC and
10nC.

-What is the field strength between the disks?

-A proton is shot from the negative disk toward the positive disk. What launch speed must the proton have to just barely reach the positive disk?



Homework Equations


Q = (10*10^-9)
ε0=(8.85*10^-12)
radius = .1 m
A = area of circle = πr^2
E = E(+) + E(-) = Q/ε0A

vf^2 = vi^2 +2Ax

The Attempt at a Solution



(10*10^-9)/(8.85^10^-12)(π)(.1^2) = 35.5 but the book gives it as (3.6 * 10^6) N/C

b: vf^2 = vi^2 + 2AX
vi= sqrt( vf^2+2(3.6*10^6)(.001))
= 84.85
book has it as 8.5 * 10^5

I think i am supposed to convert the distances meters or I need to do some type of conversion to get from the original answer to N/C units. I get the right answer but the precision is off. What could i be missing? Thanks!
 
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johnnyboy53 said:

Homework Statement



Two 2.0cm diameter disks face each other, 1.0mm apart. They are charged to -10nC and
10nC.

-What is the field strength between the disks?

-A proton is shot from the negative disk toward the positive disk. What launch speed must the proton have to just barely reach the positive disk?

Homework Equations


Q = (10*10^-9)
ε0=(8.85*10^-12)
radius = .1 m
A = area of circle = πr^2
E = E(+) + E(-) = Q/ε0A

vf^2 = vi^2 +2Ax

The Attempt at a Solution



(10*10^-9)/(8.85^10^-12)(π)(.1^2) = 35.5 but the book gives it as (3.6 * 10^6) N/C
Check the value you've used for the radius; looks like a conversion error. The result lacks units and the powers of ten.
b: vf^2 = vi^2 + 2AX
vi= sqrt( vf^2+2(3.6*10^6)(.001))
= 84.85
book has it as 8.5 * 10^5
The formula is incomplete; You've used the field strength in place of the acceleration which would not yield the correct units for the results. Determine the acceleration A that the proton will experience and then plug that into your formula.

Once again you've dropped the powers of ten and the units, making the result incorrect regardless of the numerical value.
 
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oh 1 cm = .01m. what do you mean by dropping powers of 10?

Instead of writing .01m, do i keep it as (1 * 10^-2)?
 
I would use energy conservation to determine vi. BTW vf = 0.
 
johnnyboy53 said:
oh 1 cm = .01m.
Yup.
what do you mean by dropping powers of 10?
The field won't be as large as 35.5 N/C. There will be a power of ten multiplying it, which you've dropped.
Instead of writing .01m, do i keep it as (1 * 10^-2)?
Either way is fine so long as you retain the order of magnitude in the calculations.
 

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