Electric field strength between two disks?

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The problem involves calculating the electric field strength between two charged disks with a specified diameter and separation distance. The disks are charged to positive and negative values, and there is also a question regarding the launch speed of a proton moving between the disks.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the electric field, with some suggesting that the charge should be considered only on one face of the disks. Others mention treating the disks as infinite parallel sheets due to their dimensions relative to the separation distance.

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There is ongoing exploration of the correct approach to calculating the electric field, with participants pointing out potential errors in the original poster's calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of charge distribution and the contributions to the electric field.

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Participants are questioning the assumptions about charge distribution on the disks and the relevance of the distance between them in the calculations. There is also mention of the implications of the disks being conductive and how that affects charge distribution.

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Homework Statement


Two 3.0 cm diameter disks face each other, 1.9mm apart. They are charged to $$\pm 16nC$$.
(a). What is the field strength between the disks?
(b). A proton is shot from the negative disk toward the positive disk, what launch speed must the proton have to barely reach the positive disk?

I have attemped a solution for question (a), but MasteringPhysics says it is wrong.

Thanks heaps to anyone who can help
Corey

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The Attempt at a Solution


My attempt at question (a):
$$A = pi * r^2$$
$$r = 0.015$$
$$Q = 16*10^(-9)$$
$$E = Q/A*Epsilon_0 = Q/A*8.85*10^(-12) = 1.278*10^6 $$
 
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I may be wrong , but you seem to have taken Q as charge on the entire disk , and not on just one face of it .

Hope this helps .
 
Since the distance between the discs is very small compared with their diameter, you can treat it as two infinite parallel sheets. You need to involve the distance between them in the formula.
 
haruspex said:
Since the distance between the discs is very small compared with their diameter, you can treat it as two infinite parallel sheets. You need to involve the distance between them in the formula.
The electric field between the two discs would be , approximately , σ / 2ε0 . So why would you involve the distance between the plates ?
 
Qwertywerty said:
The electric field between the two discs would be , approximately , σ / 2ε0
Edit : σ / ε0 .
 
Qwertywerty said:
The electric field between the two discs would be , approximately , σ / 2ε0 . So why would you involve the distance between the plates ?
Whoops, I was thinking in terms of voltage, not charge. Thanks for picking that up.
Corey, in your final step you seem to have divided by an extra 2. I would guess this is because you forgot there are two plates, one with positive charge and one negative. Their fields add.
 
haruspex said:
Corey, in your final step you seem to have divided by an extra 2. I would guess this is because you forgot there are two plates, one with positive charge and one negative. Their fields add.
Actually , I believe he needs to divide further by two ( See post#2 ) .
 
Qwertywerty said:
Actually , I believe he needs to divide further by two ( See post#2 ) .
It doesn't matter which side of a disc the charge is on, it will state generate the same field in the gap.
 
haruspex said:
It doesn't matter which side of a disc the charge is on, it will state generate the same field in the gap.
The electric field in the gap will only be due to the charge present on discs , on the sides facing each other .
 
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Qwertywerty said:
The electric field in the gap will only be due to the charge present on discs , on the sides facing each other .
What property of the disc could block the contribution from the charge on the far side of the disc?
Also, bear in mind that if the discs conduct then the two lots of charges will attract each other and most will finish up on the inner surfaces anyway.
 
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haruspex said:
What property of the disc could block the contribution from the charge on the far side of the disc?
Hmm .. You're right . Thus I must correct my earler stance - the entire charge on the discs will lie on the sides facing each other .

And I've figured it out - the OP's just made a mistake in his calculations .
 

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