Find f '(2) if f(x) = 1/(x+2)^2

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative f '(2) for the function f(x) = 1/(x+2)^2 using the definition of the derivative. Participants are exploring the implications of the function's behavior and the calculations involved in applying the limit definition.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the correct setup for the limit definition of the derivative and question the validity of their calculations. Some express uncertainty about the sign of the derivative, while others suggest re-evaluating their steps to identify mistakes.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various attempts to compute the derivative, with some participants suggesting that the derivative should be negative based on the function's decreasing nature. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches and setups, with no clear consensus on the correct answer yet.

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Some participants note that the function is continuous except at x = -2, which may influence their calculations. There are indications of confusion regarding the correct form of the difference quotient and the algebraic manipulations involved.

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Homework Statement



Use the definition of derivative to Find f ' (2) if f(x) = 1/(x+2)^2

Homework Equations



lim [ f(a+h) - f(a) ]/ h
h->0

3. Attempt
The answer I get is 1/8. Can someone tell me if this is correct? Thanks
 
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canucks81 said:

Homework Statement



Use the definition of derivative to Find f ' (2) if f(x) = 1/(x+2)^2

The answer I get is 1/8. Can someone tell me if this is correct? Thanks

No. f(x) = 1/(x+2)^2 is a decreasing function for x>0, so f'(2) can't be positive.
 
I originally was going to post what I got, but that might be a little too revealing, so just know that my answer agrees with what Willem said, namely that the answer needs to be negative.

Finding derivatives using the definition of the derivative and the Newton Quotient can become very messy when you have to deal with all of these terms, so I would recommend doing the whole problem again, and if the problem persists, then you can just post your work here and someone, maybe me, should be able to find your mistake for you.
 
I did the question over again and I got -1/4 this time.
 
From what I solved, that's not the correct answer. But at least your answer was negative this time :smile:

Try working through it again, but this time, type out what you did (or take a picture of it and post that) so that, if you don't get the correct answer, someone can figure out where you're going wrong.
 
Yes, show us what you did to get the value you show.
 
lim x-> 2 (1/(x+2)^2) - 2 / (x-2)

lim x ->2 [ 1 - 2(x+2)^2 / (x+2)^2 ] / (x-2)

lim x->2 [ 1 - (2x^2 + 8x + 8 ) / (x+2)^2 ] / (x-2)

lim x->2 [ 1 -(2x+4)(x+2) / (x+2)^2 ] / (x-2)

lim x ->2 [ 1 - 2 (x+2)^2 / (x+2)^2 ] / (x-2 )

(x+2)^2 cancel out

lim x -> 2 -1/(x-2) = -1 / (2-2) = -1/0 = negative infinity

My mistake was that I used (x+2) instead of (x+2)^2 so I was just a little careless. I'm pretty sure this is the correct answer.
I still feel like my 3rd step is wrong. If i write it out as 1 - 2x^2 - 8x - 8 then this will eventually turn into -2x^2 - 8x - 7.
 
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canucks81 said:
lim x-> 2 (1/(x+2)^2) - 2 / (x-2)

lim x ->2 [ 1 - 2(x+2)^2 / (x+2)^2 ] / (x-2)

lim x->2 [ 1 - (2x^2 + 8x + 8 ) / (x+2)^2 ] / (x-2)

lim x->2 [ 1 -(2x+4)(x+2) / (x+2)^2 ] / (x-2)

lim x ->2 [ 1 - 2 (x+2)^2 / (x+2)^2 ] / (x-2 )

(x+2)^2 cancel out

lim x -> 2 -1/(x-2) = -1 / (2-2) = -1/0 = negative infinity

My mistake was that I used (x+2) instead of (x+2)^2 so I was just a little careless. I'm pretty sure this is the correct answer.
No, it's not.
canucks81 said:
I still feel like my 3rd step is wrong. If i write it out as 1 - 2x^2 - 8x - 8 then this will eventually turn into -2x^2 - 8x - 7.

As I set it up, I started with (1/h)[f(2 + h) - f(2)].

After doing the algebra, I then took the limit as h → 0, and got a number.

Your undefined value makes no sense. Your function is continuous everywhere except at x = -2, so it has a derivative everywhere but at x = -2.
 
canucks81 said:
lim x-> 2 (1/(x+2)^2) - 2 / (x-2)
You started out wrong right off the bat. This is not the correct difference quotient for f(x) = 1/(x + 2)2. See my previous post for a better way to start.
 
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so using [f(a+h) - f(a) ] / h

is this the correct set up? [(1/(2+h)^2 - 1/16)] (1/h)
 
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canucks81 said:
so using [f(a+h) - f(a) ] / h

is this the correct set up? [(1/(2+h)^2 - 1/16)] (1/h)
No.

Since you're looking for f'(2), start with [f(2+h) - f(2) ] / h

Now, what is f(2 + h)? It's NOT 1/(2 + h)2.

f(2) = 1/16 is correct, though.
 
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If you do it this way, you won't have to drag lim h --> 0 along for so many steps.

1. Write [f(2+h) - f(2) ] / h using the definition of your function.
2. Simplify what you have from step 1.
3. Take the limit as h --> 0.
 

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