Find Force Acting on 5.0kg Stone in 20m Distance

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The problem involves determining the average frictional force acting on a 5.0-kg stone that is pushed and comes to rest after moving a distance of 20 m. The context includes concepts of motion, friction, and forces acting on an object in a horizontal plane.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the forces acting on the stone, including friction and the initial push. They explore the calculation of acceleration using kinematic equations and question the relevance of the initial push once the stone is in motion. There is also a discussion about calculating the frictional force based on the derived acceleration.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants confirming calculations related to acceleration and frictional force. There is an acknowledgment of different approaches, including a mention of energy methods, but no consensus has been reached on the final value of the frictional force.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the only force acting on the stone while it is slowing down is friction, and they are exploring the implications of this assumption on their calculations.

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A 5.0-kg stone is pushed out onto a level horizontal surface with a speed of 2.0 m/s. If
it comes to rest after moving a distance of 20 m, the average frictional force acting on
the block must have been...?

Since it slows down the fk is > than the Fpush.

Fnet= fk-fpush
ma = umg - fpush
ma + fpush = fk

vf^2= v0^2 + 2as
0= 4 + 40a
-4/40 = a = -.1m/s/s

So the stone is slowing down .1m/s every second which will take 20s.

Since the a = -.1m/s/s and f=ma
then wouldn't the fk = 5*-.1= -.5N
Or would you do fk=mg= 5*9.8= 49N

Any help would be great. Thank you.

Stephen Doty
 
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StephenDoty said:
Since it slows down the fk is > than the Fpush.

Fnet= fk-fpush
ma = umg - fpush
ma + fpush = fk
No. The push that set the stone moving is irrelevant. All that matters is that somehow the stone is moving at the given speed and begins to slow down. The only force acting on the stone is friction.

vf^2= v0^2 + 2as
0= 4 + 40a
-4/40 = a = -.1m/s/s
This is good!

What must the force equal to produce this acceleration?
 
So fk = 5*-.1= -.5N
right?
 
Right. The average friction force is 0.5 N.

(If you are familiar with energy methods, you can solve this problem that way as well.)
 

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