Find Fundamental Frequency of Vibrating Mylar Membrane

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the fundamental frequency of a vibrating Mylar membrane, specifically in the context of building an electrostatic loudspeaker. Participants explore the theoretical framework and equations relevant to the vibration modes of elastic membranes, considering factors such as tension, elasticity, and damping effects.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on finding the fundamental frequency, mentioning the need for equations that incorporate tension and elasticity, as well as the effects of air damping.
  • Another participant provides a formula for the resonance frequencies of a circular membrane with fixed rim conditions, referencing the speed of sound in the material and the zeroes of the Bessel function.
  • A later reply corrects the shape of the membrane to rectangular and provides a corresponding formula for the fundamental frequency in that case, emphasizing the dimensions of the membrane.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present different approaches to calculating the fundamental frequency based on the shape of the membrane, indicating that there is no consensus on a single method applicable to all scenarios. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for the specific case of a Mylar membrane.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the specific shape of the membrane (circular vs. rectangular) and the need for additional parameters such as the speed of sound in the material, which are not fully addressed in the discussion.

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Alright I've been going crazy with this problem. I'm building an electrostatic loudspeaker. In order to get it right I need to find the Fundamental frequency of the vibrating membrane.

This membrane will be of an elastic substance, Mylar. Approx. 5 microns think with a young's modulus of about 4 GPA.

How do you go about solving a problem like this?

I know the solution will have tension, elasticity in the equation. I guess what I'm really asking is what are the group of equations defining modes of vibrations in elastic membranes. I know it will be in the form of a simple harmonic motion

f= 1/2 PI * SQRT(k/m) but there is nothing in that equation relating the restoring force of the membrane due to it's elasticity nor the effects of Air damping it due to drag/viscosity.
 
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For a circular membrane with fixed rim the frequencies for resonance are given by
f_nm=j_nm*c/(2PI R)
where R is the radius of the membrane and j_nm are the zeroes of the Bessel function of first order.
The lowest value for j_nm in my table is 2.4
So this will give the lowest frequency.
You still need the speed of sound in your material (c).
 
Oh sorry it would be a rectangle.
 
For rectangular, with same fixed rim conditions,
f_nm=(c/2)*[(n/Lx)^2+(m/Ly)^2]^(1/2)
(you take square root from the straight bracket)

Fundamental freq is for n=m=1
Lx,Ly - dimensions of the membrane
 

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