Find Height of Sign for Optimal View at 60 Feet

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The discussion revolves around determining the optimal height of a sign placed atop a 50-foot building, with the goal of maximizing the angle of view for an observer standing 60 feet away. The problem involves concepts from trigonometry and geometry, particularly relating to angles of elevation and distances.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the height of the sign and the viewing angle from a specific distance. There are attempts to set up trigonometric equations involving angles and distances, but some participants express uncertainty about the next steps and the relevance of the observer's height.

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The conversation appears to be ongoing, with participants exploring different variables and equations. Some have expressed frustration over the lack of responses, indicating a desire for more engagement or assistance in resolving the problem.

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There is mention of the observer's eye level being 5 feet off the ground, which may influence the calculations. Additionally, the problem's context is framed as a homework assignment, suggesting constraints on the type of assistance that can be provided.

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At the top of their 50 foot tall sales building, there is a 10 feet tall sign. But he wants to replace it with a sign for which the ideal viewing distance is 60 feet from the building. For an observer, the angle between the lines of sight from the observer's eye to the top and the bottom of the sign is a measure of the observer's view of the sign, and the best view occurs when this angle is largest possible. Assuming that the observer's eyes are 5 ft off the ground (so that the observer is approximately 5'3"), you can determine that the ideal viewing distance from the building is approximately 49.7 feet if the sign were 10 feet tall. You are to determine the height of the new sign placed at the top of the building so that the best view occurs when the observer is 60 feet from the building. Let h be the height of the new sign, and let x be the distance that the observer stands from the building.

So here is what I have done:
Tan theta= 50/x
Theta = arctan 50/x
Tan (theta + beta) = 50 + h / x
(theta + beta) = arctan 50 + h / x
theta = arctan 50 + h / x – arctan 50 / x
theta ‘ = 1/ 1 + (50 + h / x)^2 (-50 – h/ x^2) – 1/ 1 + (50/x)^2 (-50/x^2)
= -50 – h / x^2 + (50 + h)^2 + 50 / x^2 + 50^2 = 0
50 / x^2 + 50^2 = 50 + h / x^2 + (50 + h)^2

I hope you can understand, I can't get a triangle on here to show you so I hope you can follow along.

Once I get to the last line, I'm not sure what to do. I've tried plugging 60 in for x but i don't think I get a correct answer.
 
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Since this looks like a classic homework problem, I'm moving this to the "homework" section.
 
ok so I've changed somethings.
I'm letting a represent the height of the building and h represent the height of the sign and theta represent the angle of vision between the top and bottom of the building, x represents the distance away from the building, which is 60 ft and beta which is the angle of vision between the top and bottom of the sign.
Theta = arctan(a/60), since a = 50, theta = 40 deg.
So now I get this equation: 50 + h = 60 tan beta and I don't know where to go from there.
Also do I need to take into consideration the height of the man looking at the sign?
 
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nobody?? C'mon guys I need some help.
 
really, no one has any help?
 
thanks for all your help, what, do you have to be regular around here to get some answers.
 

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