Find k from magnetic field and magnetic flux.

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The discussion revolves around determining the constant k from a magnetic field and magnetic flux scenario. The magnetic field is defined as a function of the y-coordinate and time, while the magnetic flux is expressed in terms of a positive constant and the area of a circuit. Participants are exploring the relationship between these quantities in the context of magnetic fields and flux.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the applicability of the magnetic flux formula, questioning whether the conditions for uniformity of the magnetic field are met. There is an exploration of integrating the magnetic field over the area of the circuit to find k.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the need to consider the non-uniform nature of the magnetic field and suggested using integration to determine k. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, with participants actively engaging in clarifying assumptions and exploring mathematical approaches.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the magnetic field's dependence on the y-coordinate implies it is not uniform over the surface of the circuit, which affects the calculation of magnetic flux.

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Homework Statement


Hello...

I got a problem I really can't figure out.
I have the scenario in this link: http://www.gratisupload.dk/download/41677/"

Besides that I know that there is a magnetic field that works everywhere and is along the z-axis. This field, that depends on the y-coordinate and the time t is given as:

[tex]B=ky{{e}^{-{{t}^{2}}/{{\tau }^{2}}}}{{e}_{z}}$[/tex]
where tau is a positive time-constant, k is a constant with dimension T/m and ez is unit vector in the direction of the z-axis.

The magnetic field raises a magnetic flux through the circuit given by:

[tex]\[{{\Phi }_{B}}={{B}_{0}}{{L}^{2}}{{e}^{-{{t}^{2}}/{{\tau }^{2}}}}\][/tex]
where B0 is a positive constant with dimension T.

Now determine k

Homework Equations



[tex]\[{{\Phi }_{B}}=BA\][/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I know the answer is supposed to be:

[tex]\[k=2{{B}_{0}}/L\][/tex]

It seemed to good to be true if I just inserted the flux and the magnetic field into this equation, and then setting A = L2.

If I did that I got: k = B0 / y.

And I've been searching my book for examples and stuff I could use. But I can't come up with anything when I only have the magnetic field and magnetic flux. So I'm thinking there must be a trick that I'm not aware of :S

So can anyone point me in the right direction?Regards.
 
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Ylle said:

Homework Equations



[tex]\[{{\Phi }_{B}}=BA\][/tex]

This formula is only true if [itex]\textbf{B}[/itex] is uniform over the surface and normal to the surface. Are these two conditions met by the [itex]\textbf{B}[/itex] in your problem and the square surface bounded by the circuit you are given?

If not, you will need to use the more general definition of magnetic flux.
 
Ahhh, I guess, since the field is in z-direction it's not uniform.
So what I need to do is:

[tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int B dx dy[/tex] with the limits 0 to L in both integrals, and the equal the flux I have, and solve for k ?
 
Ylle said:
Ahhh, I guess, since the field is in z-direction it's not uniform.

The reason the field isn't uniform over the surface, is because it depends on [itex]y[/itex] and [itex]y[/itex] varies over the surface.

So what I need to do is:

[tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int B dx dy[/tex] with the limits 0 to L in both integrals, and the equal the flux I have, and solve for k ?

Yup.
 
I see :)

Thank you very much.
 

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