Find Limit of n*(x^(1/n)-1)-ln(x) for Any n

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The problem involves finding the limit of the expression n*(x^(1/n)-1)-ln(x) as x approaches infinity, applicable for any integer n. The discussion centers around the use of L'Hôpital's rule and transformations to facilitate evaluation of the limit.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the challenge of applying L'Hôpital's rule to a difference rather than a quotient. Some suggest transformations to express the limit in a fraction form, while others explore factoring techniques to simplify the expression.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing various approaches and questioning the effectiveness of their methods. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of L'Hôpital's rule and factoring, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method for solving the limit.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement to evaluate the limit as x approaches infinity and the implications of using L'Hôpital's rule in this context.

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Homework Statement


Find the limit:

[itex]lim_{x -> \infty}[n*(x^{\frac{1}{n}}-1)-ln(x)][/itex], for any n.

Homework Equations


l'hospital's rule.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the ratio of the first expression over the last goes to zero, by L'Hopital, but unfortunately I now have a difference and not a quotient. Is it possible to transform it in some way to use L'Hopital?
 
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a-b = (ab-b^2)/b = (a/b - 1)/(1/b)
Not sure if one of those helps.
 
[itex]lim_{x -> \infty}[n*(x^{\frac{1}{n}}-1)-ln(x)][/itex], for any n.

##y = \displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty}(ln[e^{n*(x^{\frac{1}{n}}-1)}]-ln(x))##
##y = \displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty}\displaystyle ln\left[\frac{e^{n*(x^{\frac{1}{n}}-1)}}{x}\right]##
##e^y = \displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty}\displaystyle \left[\frac{e^{n*(x^{\frac{1}{n}}-1)}}{x}\right]##

That gives it in fraction form. I'm not sure if it makes it easier to evaluate or not, I haven't tried the problem myself.
 
scurty said:
That gives it in fraction form. I'm not sure if it makes it easier to evaluate or not, I haven't tried the problem myself.
If you apply l'Hopital's rule on that fraction, you end up with the same fraction again (plus some irrelevant part you can ignore).
 
mfb said:
If you apply l'Hopital's rule on that fraction, you end up with the same fraction again (plus some irrelevant part you can ignore).

You're right.

I believe factoring out ln(x) so you have ##\displaystyle\lim_{x\to\infty}\ln{(x)} \cdot \left(\frac{n(x^{1/n}-1)}{\ln{(x)}} - 1\right)## might work. You can use l'Hospital's on the inside fraction which works better than what I suggested above.
 

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