Find Ratio of Integrals: $\lim_{n \to\infty} I_n/I_{n-2}$

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The problem involves evaluating the limit of the ratio of integrals defined as \( I_n = \int^1_0 x^n \sqrt{1-x^2} \, dx \) and seeks to find \( \lim_{n \to \infty} \frac{I_n}{I_{n-2}} \). The context is within integral calculus and the properties of Beta and Gamma functions.

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  • Participants discuss integration by parts as a method to approach the problem, with some suggesting alternative substitutions to simplify the integrals. There are mentions of the Beta function and its properties, as well as considerations of how to handle limits and factorials in the context of the integrals.

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The discussion is ongoing with various methods being explored. Some participants have suggested specific techniques and substitutions, while others have questioned the effectiveness of certain approaches. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but several productive lines of reasoning are being developed.

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Participants note the potential complications arising from the use of factorials and the need to consider limits carefully. There is also an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem and the various mathematical tools that may be relevant.

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Homework Statement


If I_n = \displaystyle \int^1_0 x^n. \sqrt{1-x^2} dx then
\lim_{n \to \infty} \dfrac{I_n}{I_{n-2}} is equal to

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


Integrating by parts

x^n \displaystyle \int \sqrt{1-x^2}dx - \int nx^{n-1} \int \sqrt{1-x^2} dx

But integrating further is useless.
 
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You are integrating it the wrong way. Keep in mind that \displaystyle \lim_{n\to\infty} \frac{I_n}{I_{n-2}} = \lim_{n\to\infty} \frac{I_{n+2}}{I_{n}}.
 
Ignore the above post, I figured out it does not lead to the solution; so you have to resort to more analytic methods. Substituting u=x^2 in this integral gives \displaystyle \frac{1}{2}\int^{1}_{0} u^{(n-1)/2} (1-u)^{1/2}\,\,du, which is in the form of the general integral \displaystyle B(a,b) = \int^{1}_{0}x^{a-1}(1-x)^{b-1}\,dx. This function is called the Beta function and it happens to satisfy \displaystyle B(x,y) = \frac{(x-1)!(y-1)!}{(x+y-1)!} for integer x and y.

Can you solve it from here?

Note: You might get fractions inside factorials while solving the question. You don't have to know their values, just use the equation (x+1)! = (x+1)x! to simplify the limit. The reason you will see those is that the equation for the Beta integral is true for a meromorphic Gamma function which satisfies \Gamma(x+1) = x!, which extends the factorial function to all complex numbers.
 
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utkarshakash said:

Homework Statement


If I_n = \displaystyle \int^1_0 x^n. \sqrt{1-x^2} dx then
\lim_{n \to \infty} \dfrac{I_n}{I_{n-2}} is equal to

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


Integrating by parts

x^n \displaystyle \int \sqrt{1-x^2}dx - \int nx^{n-1} \int \sqrt{1-x^2} dx

But integrating further is useless.

Try leaving one of the x with the ##\sqrt{1-x^2}## term, i.e. factor it as ##x^{n-1}.x\sqrt{1-x^2}dx##, then integrate by parts very much as you did.
 
haruspex said:
Try leaving one of the x with the ##\sqrt{1-x^2}## term, i.e. factor it as ##x^{n-1}.x\sqrt{1-x^2}dx##, then integrate by parts very much as you did.

Your method was excellent. I just want to know how do you solve these complicated problems in a jiffy?
 
haruspex said:
Try leaving one of the x with the ##\sqrt{1-x^2}## term, i.e. factor it as ##x^{n-1}.x\sqrt{1-x^2}dx##, then integrate by parts very much as you did.

Using integration by parts:
I_n=-\frac{x^{n-1}}{3}(1-x^2)^{3/2}+\int \frac{2}{3}(n-1)x^{n-2}(1-x^2)^{3/2}

How do you proceed from here?

Thanks!
 
x^{n-2}(1-x^2)^{3/2} = (x^{n-2} - x^{n})\sqrt{1-x^2}
Also, don't leave out the limits.
 
Millennial said:
x^{n-2}(1-x^2)^{3/2} = (x^{n-2} - x^{n})\sqrt{1-x^2}
Also, don't leave out the limits.

Thanks!

@utkarshakash: Can you post the answer?
 
Honestly, having wandered around in articles and pages involving the Gamma and Beta functions, my Beta function solution was the first one that crossed my mind. However, the one provided by haruspex is so much better if you have no prior knowledge on these topics.
 
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utkarshakash said:
Your method was excellent. I just want to know how do you solve these complicated problems in a jiffy?
In this case, by looking at what was to be proved. Since we wanted step the n by 2, and differentiation would only step it by one, we needed to leave one factor of x out of the differentiation.
 
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haruspex said:
In this case, by looking at what was to be proved. Since we wanted step the n by 2, and differentiation would only step it by one, we needed to leave one factor of x out of the differentiation.

Ah! That makes sense. Thanks.
 
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Pranav-Arora said:
Thanks!

@utkarshakash: Can you post the answer?

The answer is 1.
 
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utkarshakash said:
The answer is 1.

Thanks!
 

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