Find Solution for Electrostatic Force Neutralization

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The problem involves determining the position of a third particle with an unknown charge such that the net electrostatic force acting on it from two other charged particles is zero. The context is electrostatics, specifically dealing with forces between charged objects.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss placing the third particle either to the left or right of the two known charges to balance the forces. There are attempts to set up equations based on the forces exerted by the two particles on the third particle. Questions arise about the placement of the third particle and how to solve the resulting equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided equations relating the forces acting on the third particle, while others express uncertainty about how to proceed with solving these equations. There is an ongoing exploration of different placements for the third particle and the implications of those placements on the calculations.

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Participants note that they have not yet substituted the actual charge values into their equations, and there is a mention of potential confusion regarding the variable names used in the equations.

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Homework Statement


In Fig. 21-26, particle 1 of charge q1 = +1.4 µC and particle 2 of charge q2 = -4.2 µC, are held at separation L = 12 cm on an x axis. If particle 3 of unknown charge q3 is to be located such that the net electrostatic force on it from particles 1 and 2 is zero, what must be the (a) x and (b) y coordinates of particle 3?

Homework Equations


F = (Q1 * Q2)K/ r^2

The Attempt at a Solution



At first i thought i could go about this problem setting the particle to the left of the two
i figured that the charge on Q2 > Q1 so its pull would be compensated by Q1's push
(i made my particle three positive)
then i set F31 = F32 so that their forces would balance out to 0
that would make my y placemnt 0 as well
but now...im stuck
i did som canceling until i finally go to this:

(r^2) Q2
------------ = ---------
(0.12 +r)^2 Q1

or
(r^2) / (0.12 +r)^2 = Q2/ Q1

and i don't know wehre to go from there
so...
is there a way out or was i supposed to envision particle three somewhere else??
 
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If you put your particle on left or right side of q1 and q2 so that it is closest to the one that pulls, you can set up two equations:

Fpull = q3*1.4/d^2
Fpush = q3*4.2/(d+12)^2

when the push and pull forces are equal...
 


Thats wuht i did
and i simplified it to get this


(r^2) / (0.12 +r)^2 = Q2/ Q1

i dint plug in the chrge values for Q1 and 2 yet
but i hope u see the jist
i pretty much started with what u gave me, (except ur d was my r of course)
but from the equation above i can't figure out how to solve for r
so i was wondering if there was any other way to solve it?? :S
 


just equate them and solve the equation... here is a start:

q3*1.4/r^2 = q3*4.2/(r+12)^2 (--divide both sides by q3)
1.4/r^2 = 4.2/(r+12)^2 (--evaluate right side)
1.4/r^2 = 4.2/(r^2+24r+144) (--multiply both side by (r^2)(r^2+24r+144) )
1.4(r^2+24r+144) = 4.2r^2
etc...
 
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