Find Speed in Centripetal Motion

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving centripetal motion, specifically related to a roller coaster's loop. The scenario includes a radius of curvature and the forces acting on a passenger at the top of the loop.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the forces providing centripetal force, including weight and the force exerted by the seat. Questions arise about the role of mass and the specific values given, such as 0.4mg.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to clarify the relationships between the forces involved and how they contribute to centripetal acceleration. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations to use, but there remains a lack of consensus on the interpretation of certain terms and values.

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There is some confusion regarding the application of mass and the specific force values, as well as the absence of information about the period of motion, which affects the choice of equations.

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The radius of curvature of a loop-to-loop roller coaster is 12 m. At the top of the loop, the force that the seat exerts on a passenger of mass m is 0.4mg. Find the speed of the roller coaster at the top of the loop. Answer: v = 12.83 m/s.

I assume .4 mg is the torque, right? I have no clue what to do. Please help.
 
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At the top of the loop...what forces provide the centripetal force? the weight and the force that the seat exerts...and so...you can find v...
 
What do I do with the mg?
 
Well mg is just the formula to find weight...so that the force exerted by the seat is 0.4*(the weight of the seat)

so that weight of seat+Force exerted by seat, provides the centripetal force
 
So I would use the equation F = ma and a = v^2/r. I wouldn't use v = (2*pi*r)/(T) because T = period and that info is not provided. But I still don't understand what I'm suppose to do with the m and .4mg.
 
ok..seems you aren't getting this...

Eq'n: Centripetal Force,[itex]F_c=\frac{mv^2}{r}[/itex]

The weight of the seat(mg) + The force that the seat exerts on a passenger(0.4mg) provides the centripetal force.

This means that

[tex]F_c=mg+.4mg[/tex]

since [itex]F_c=\frac{mv^2}{r}[/itex]

then
[tex]\frac{mv^2}{r}=mg+.04mg[/tex]


What cancels out...and you have the value of 'r' and 'g'
 
Solved! Thank you sooo much.
 

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