Find Spring Constant for Two Springs in Series

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The spring constant for two springs in series can be calculated using the formula k3 = 2k1k2 / (k1 + k2). This formula is derived from the principle that springs in series behave like resistors in parallel, where the equivalent spring constant (KT) is given by 1/KT = 1/K1 + 1/K2. Additionally, the discussion highlights that springs in parallel add as resistors in series, with the formula KT = K1 + K2. The derivation for multiple springs follows the same principles, allowing for straightforward extension to N springs.

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Two springs are in series. You know the constants for each individual spring. How do you find the spring constant for the spring system?

|-OOOOO---o---OOOOOOOOOO-| --->F
In the middle of the spring system (where the "o" is) the net force is zero and we have
k1x1=k2x2 disregarding sign
F=k3x3
x3 =x2+x1
F=k3(x2+x1)
F=k3(k1x1/k2+x1)
F=k3*x1/k2*(k1+k2)
but F=k1x1+k2x2
F=2k1x1
2k1x1=k3*x1/k2*(k1+k2)
2k1k2=k3(k1+k2)
k3=2k1k2/(k1+k2)

Is this right?
 
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Looks OK.
Now try to find a similar expression for N springs..:)
 
Looks to me like you have an extra factor of 2 in there. Springs in series add as Resistors in parallel. So

1/KT = 1/K1+ 1/K2

OR


KT= (K1+K2)/(K1K2)

Also Springs in parallel add as resistors in series.

KT=K1+K2

I do not have time to do the derivation now. Should be able to post it later to day. A key is that in the series case the force seen by each spring is equal, while in the parallel case the extensions are equal.
 
Originally posted by Integral
Looks to me like you have an extra factor of 2 in there. Springs in series add as Resistors in parallel. So

1/KT = 1/K1+ 1/K2
Ah, I see my mistake. I have F=k1x1+k2x2 but F=k2x1=k1x1. I need to be more careful.
 
OK, that looks better!
http://home.comcast.net/~rossgr1/Math/Spring_constant.PDF is my derivation. As long as I was at it I did the case for parallel springs also.

BTW: it would be trivial to extend this to multiple springs.
 
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Thank you, Integral. I have put your work into my physics notebook (hope you don't mind).
 

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