Find Tension in Rod after 1 String is Severed

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a thin, uniform rod supported by two vertical strings, with the task of finding the tension in the remaining string after one string is severed. The context is rooted in rotational dynamics and torque analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply torque and moment of inertia concepts to derive the tension but encounters an incorrect result. Some participants question the assumptions regarding the rod's center of mass and the application of torque equations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the setup of the problem, with some providing guidance on how to adjust the torque equation based on the rod's center of mass. There is no explicit consensus on the final approach, but there are suggestions for correcting the original poster's reasoning.

Contextual Notes

There is an assumption that the strings are attached to the ends of the rod, although this detail is not explicitly stated in the original problem. The original poster expresses confusion about the expected outcome, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the dynamics involved.

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Homework Statement


A thin, uniform rod of mass M is supported by two vertical strings. Find the tension
in the remaining string immediately after one of the strings is severed

Homework Equations




I = 1/3MR^2 (thin rod rotating at end)

The Attempt at a Solution



So I was thinking:
Torque = Moment of Inertia * angular accel

R*Mg = (1/3*MR^2)(acm/R)

3g = acm

then F = ma
macm = Mg - T


Unfortunately this gives me the incorrect answer (it is supposed to be 1/4Mg).

Does anyone see where I am going wrong? It seems like this should be a rather straightforward problem.
 
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I'll assume that the strings are attached to the ends of the rod, although that wasn't stated.

Where you went wrong is that [R=length of rod], so force of gravity acts at the center of mass, which is at the center of the rod, which means it has an arm of R/2. So your equation of [net torque = I*alpha] should be:

(R/2)*Mg = (1/3*MR^2)(acm/(R/2))

Then just do the rest of the steps accordingly, and you get (T = 1/4*Mg).
Hope that helped.
 
roeb said:

Homework Statement


A thin, uniform rod of mass M is supported by two vertical strings. Find the tension
in the remaining string immediately after one of the strings is severed

Homework Equations




I = 1/3MR^2 (thin rod rotating at end)

The Attempt at a Solution



So I was thinking:
Torque = Moment of Inertia * angular accel

R*Mg = (1/3*MR^2)(acm/R)

3g = acm

then F = ma
macm = Mg - T


Unfortunately this gives me the incorrect answer (it is supposed to be 1/4Mg).

Does anyone see where I am going wrong? It seems like this should be a rather straightforward problem.
Itshould be (R/2)*Mg = (1/3*MR^2)(acm/(R/2))
 
Oh yes... Thanks guys!
 
That's what she said (last post, title).

Sorry, couldn't resist. Back me up here, guys.
 

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