Find the acceleration in the string

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The discussion revolves around finding the acceleration in a system involving two blocks with different masses when a force is applied to one of them. The first block has a mass of 10 kg, and the second block has a mass of 20 kg, with a 50 N force acting on the second block.

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  • Participants explore the concept of acceleration in the context of the applied force and the masses involved. Questions arise regarding the clarity of the problem statement and the assumptions about the system's acceleration. Some participants attempt to apply Newton's second law to derive relationships between the forces and accelerations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying the problem and exploring different interpretations. Some guidance has been provided regarding the assumptions that both blocks share the same acceleration, and various approaches to applying Newton's laws have been suggested.

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There is a noted lack of clarity in the original problem statement, particularly regarding what is meant by "acceleration in the string." Additionally, references to another problem have caused confusion, indicating that more context may be needed for a complete understanding.

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The 1st block has a mass of 10kg and the 2nd block has a mass of 20kg..

I need to find the acceleration in the string when a 50 N force is applied to the 2nd block...

I was thinking to find the acceleration I would do 50 N = (30kg)a
a = 1.6 but according to another problem that I looked at the acceleration would be 5.0 so now I'm confused for the correct way to find it.
 
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I don't know what you mean by "acceleration in the string" and I think you've left something out. Also, we have no way of comparing the present problem with the other one you mention and, therefore, have no basis for judging whether the solution of the other problem has any relevance to this one.

Please elaborate.
 
it looks like he means that he wants to know the acceleration of the system after the 50 N force has been applied to the string?

it's kind of unclear.

what's the second problem like?
 
Shouldn't there be the assumption that both objects have the same acceleration a ?

Newton's second law for the composite system then yields
[tex]50 = (10 + 20) a[/tex]
[tex]a = \frac{5}{3} \frac{m}{s^2}[/tex]

Newton's second law for the left block yields
[tex]10a = T[/tex]
[tex]\frac{50}{3} N = T[/tex]

Newton's second law for the right block yields
[tex]20a = 50-T[/tex]

Which again must give the correct same T
[tex]T = \frac{150}{3} - \frac{100}{3} = \frac {50}{3} N[/tex]

marlon
 
I was thinking to find the acceleration I would do 50 N = (30kg)a
a = 1.6 but according to another problem that I looked at the acceleration would be 5.0 so now I'm confused for the correct way to find it.

He has done that. May be he is asking about finding some thing else. He needs to state the problem properly so we can stop guessing.
 
Yeah, sorry I was talking about the acceleration for the system.
That second problem I was talking about was really weird and I think I might of screwed up on that.

I can understand what marlon did,
thanks all
 

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