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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration of an object influenced by gravitational and frictional forces. Participants are exploring the relationship between different components of acceleration in a physics context, particularly involving inclined planes and braking forces.

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  • Participants discuss various equations for acceleration, including the use of gravitational components and braking forces. There are attempts to reconcile different values of acceleration derived from different methods. Questions arise regarding the definitions and roles of acceleration due to gravity and the net acceleration of the object.

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The discussion is active with participants questioning the differences between calculated values of acceleration and exploring the implications of various forces acting on the object. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between the forces, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or interpretation.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem that requires understanding of forces on an inclined plane, including gravitational force, friction, and braking force. There is mention of specific values and angles that are relevant to the calculations but not all information is fully clarified.

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You can find the acceleration of the object by using
vf^2 = vi^2 + 2*a*s. vi and s is given. Find a.
This acceleration has two components. One the component of g which acts in the downward direction. And the other due to braking force, which acts in the opposite direction of the motion. In the diagram sinθ is given. (10/100).
Write down the expression for the acceleration and solve the problem..
 


um to find acceleration can't you use a=gsinθ, but if you use that its 10xsin(5.740) which equaks 1.001 because if sinθ=10/100 then θ=5.74. However if I use your equation i get a=4.5m/s/s
 


TyErd said:
um to find acceleration can't you use a=gsinθ, but if you use that its 10xsin(5.740) which equaks 1.001 because if sinθ=10/100 then θ=5.74. However if I use your equation i get a=4.5m/s/s
The acceleration a is correct.
Now a = af - g*sinθ, where af is the acceleration due to frictional force.
 


how do i calculate af?
 


TyErd said:
how do i calculate af?
In the problem they have asked
What is the constant braking force?
So you have find af, then the braking force = m*af.
You have found a and g*sinθ. Using the above equation find af.
 


so is af = 4.500 - 1.001?, then the braking force is 1000*3.499=3499?
 


so then what is the driving force?
 


is it just 1000N?
 
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TyErd said:
so is af = 4.500 - 1.001?, then the braking force is 1000*3.499=3499?
This step is wrong.
af = a + g*sinθ.
Αnd what do you mean by driving force?
Sledge moves down due to gravitational force. The frictional force stops it.
 
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whats the difference between a and gsinθ?
 
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TyErd said:
whats the difference between a and gsinθ?
mg*sinθ ...> Force acting on the sledge due to gravity in the downward direction
μ*mg*cosθ...>Frictional force in the upward direction = m*af
Net retarding force acting on the sledge is
mg*sinθ - m*af = - m*a.
 
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ok we calculated before that gsinθ = 1.001. so that's the acceleration downwards direction. then we calculated a to be 4.500 using that equation. why are they different when there both acceleration?
 
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When you are using the equation vf^2 = vi^2 + 2*a*s. to find a, you are getting the acceleration -4.5 ms^-2. whereas g*sinθ +1. There directions are different.
 

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