Find the aceleration of the disk when falling (rotation)

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The problem involves a disk of mass M and radius R that is hanging by an ideal rope, with a smaller mass m attached. The task is to calculate the acceleration of the center of mass of the disk while considering the effects of both masses and their interactions.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply torque and Newton's laws but is uncertain about how to account for the two bodies and the tensions involved. Some participants suggest considering the two bodies as a single system to simplify the analysis.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, with some guidance provided on treating the masses as a single entity for analysis. There is a suggestion of an alternative approach involving effective mass and rolling mass, although the appropriateness of this method is questioned.

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There is uncertainty regarding the professor's approval of certain shortcuts in the problem-solving process. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on how to properly account for the system's dynamics.

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I have that system and the problem says:

A disk of mass M and radious R are posed are shown. The disk is hanging by an ideal rope which is coiled up. From a smooth axis through the center of the disk is haning a body m. Calclate the module of the aceleration of the center of mass of the disk.

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I've done this exercise but without the small mass hanging there. What I did was to use the torque and Newton formulas, that simple. But here I've got two bodies and tensions are driving me crazy. Should I consider the bodies as a single one?

Thanks!
 

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Hi Hernaner28! :smile:
Hernaner28 said:
I've done this exercise but without the small mass hanging there. What I did was to use the torque and Newton formulas, that simple. But here I've got two bodies and tensions are driving me crazy. Should I consider the bodies as a single one?

Yes, since they're moving together, you can regard them as a single body …

add the m to the mass of the pulley, but not to its moment of inertia. :wink:
 
Done! Thank you!

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yes! :smile:

here's a shortcut (i don't know whether your professor would approve of this, but it's certainly a good way of checking the answer) …

the force is (M+m)g, and the effective mass is the actual mass M+m plus the "rolling mass" I/r2 = M/2,

so a = (M + m)/(3M/2 + m) :wink:
 

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