Find the applied force to cause a body to tip over

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the applied force necessary to tip a box over, given its weight, static friction, and the position of its center of mass. The scenario involves a box at rest on a flat surface, with considerations for forces acting on it.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze the forces acting on the box using a free body diagram and is considering how to solve for friction to find the applied force. Some participants suggest calculating the torque around the pivot point and equating it to the torque from the applied force. A follow-up question arises regarding the effect of an accelerating platform on the problem setup.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, including the impact of an accelerating platform. Clarifications have been provided regarding the pivot point and torque considerations, but no consensus has been reached on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about static friction being sufficient to keep the pivot point fixed and the introduction of an inertial force due to the platform's acceleration.

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Homework Statement


Assuming I have a simple body, like a box, with known center of mass, how do I find the applied force, through its center of mass that will cause the object to tip over? The object is at rest on a flat surface.

Known elements:
weight of object, static friction between surface and object, position of center of mass.


Homework Equations



[tex] (\vec{F}_{net})_x = \Sigma F_x = 0[/tex]

[tex] (\vec{F}_{net})_y = \Sigma F_y = 0[/tex]

[tex] (\vec{M}_{net})_G = \Sigma M_G = 0[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution



Drew a free body diagram, and my forces {Weight, Applied Force, Friction and Normal Force). Showed the normal force located at the corner opposite the applied force. The applied force is only present in the X direction. I'm guessing I need to solve for Friction to solve for the Applied Force. I'm a little lost as to how to do this.

Thanks
Preet
 
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If you are thinking of a box, then to tip over the box has to pivot around one of the corners. Find the torque associated with the weight of the box acting at the center of mass around that pivot point and equate that to the torque created by the applied force. I would just assume that there is enough static friction to keep the pivot point fixed.
 
That makes a lot of sense... thanks for clarifying.
I have one quick follow up question. The scope of the initial problem I'm trying to solve is a little bigger -- the box is on a platform that accelerates in the X direction. I reduced this to have a pretend inertial force (my Applied Force) acting on the mass. Is this acceptable?
 
Sounds fine to me, you should be able to treat the acceleration as a 'pretend' gravitational type force.
 

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