Find the center of mass of a uniform semicircular plate of radius R

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The discussion focuses on the calculation of the center of mass for a uniform semicircular plate of radius R. The correct formula for the center of mass is derived using the position vector and mass density, leading to the conclusion that the center of mass is located at \(\frac{2R}{\pi}\vec{j}\). The error identified in the initial approach was the misapplication of the integral for the position vector, which should account for the entire area rather than just points on the circumference. The correct mass density is \(\sigma = \frac{2M}{\pi R^2}\).

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Homework Statement
Find the center of mass of a uniform this semicircular plate of radius R. Let the origin be at the center of the semicircle, the plate arc from the +x axis to the -x axis, and the z axis be perpendicular to the plate.
Relevant Equations
##rcm = \frac 1 M*\int(r*dm)##
$$rcm = \frac{1}{M}\int_0^\pi(rdm)$$
$$dm = \sigma{dA}$$
$$dA = (\pi*R^2)*\frac{d\theta}{2\pi}$$
$$\sigma = \frac{M}{\frac{\pi*R^2}{2}}$$
$$dm = M*\frac{d\theta}{\pi}$$
$$r = R(cos(\theta)\vec i + sin(\theta)\vec j)$$
$$rcm = \int_0^\pi{\frac{R}{\pi}(cos(\theta)\vec i + sin(\theta)\vec j)} = \frac{2*R}{\pi}\vec j$$

Where did I go wrong?
 
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annamal said:
Relevant Equations:: ##rcm = \frac 1 M*\int(r*dm)##
Where did I go wrong?
Right there. It is not ##\int r.dm##.
 
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haruspex said:
Read the text there carefully. The r in that formula is a position vector, (x, y, z). So the equation becomes ##(x_{cm}, y_{cm}, z_{cm})=\frac 1M\int(x,y,z).dm##.
That works because all the x are parallel. The r in your usage are not all parallel.
Yes, so ##\vec r = R(cos(\theta)\vec i + sin(\theta)\vec j)##
I meant ##\vec r_{cm} = \frac 1 M*\int(\vec r*dm)##
What's the problem?
 
annamal said:
Yes, so ##\vec r = R(cos(\theta)\vec i + sin(\theta)\vec j)##
That's only true of a point on the circumference, so you have found the mass centre of a semicircular arc.
 
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haruspex said:
That's only true of a point on the circumference, so you have found the mass centre of a semicircular arc.
Ah, I see. This doesn't work either

$$\sigma = \frac{2M}{\pi*R^2}$$
$$dM = \sigma dA$$
$$dA = \pi ydy$$
$$y_{cm} = \frac{1}{M}\int ydM = \frac{\sigma*\pi}{M}\int{y^2}{dy} = 2MR/3$$
 
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