Find the constant value of the difference

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the constant value of the difference between two functions, ##\arctan (x-1)## and ##2 \arctan (x-1 + \sqrt{(x-1)^2+1})##. Participants explore the relationship between these functions, particularly focusing on their derivatives and the implications for their equality across their domain.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that since the two functions have the same derivative, there exists a constant value at which they differ, suggesting the need to find this constant.
  • Another participant proposes evaluating the functions at specific values of x to determine the constant, indicating that if the functions are equal, they should yield the same result for any x in their domain.
  • A later reply suggests substituting ##x = 1## to find the constant, leading to a calculation that results in ##c = -\pi/2##.
  • One participant mentions that adding ##\pi/2## to ##\arctan(x-1)## might be a valid approach, although they express uncertainty about its correctness.
  • Another participant introduces a formula related to the derivative of a different expression, suggesting that the input transformation might complicate the analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of the input transformation and the approach to finding the constant. There is no consensus on the best method to verify the equality of the functions or the correctness of the proposed constant.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the domain of the functions and the implications of their derivatives are not fully explored. The discussion includes various approaches without resolving the mathematical steps involved in confirming the equality of the functions.

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I know that the following two functions have the same derivative: ##\arctan (x-1)## and ##2 \arctan (x-1 + \sqrt{(x-1)^2+1})##. Out of curiosity, how can I find the constant value at which they differ? I tried to add ##\pi / 2## to arctan(x-1) but I'm not sure if that works or not...
 
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Don't know if this works, but if they are equal as functions, they are equal in every point on the domain. So try to find a good x to evaluate the functions in.
 
Math_QED said:
Don't know if this works, but if they are equal as functions, they are equal in every point on the domain. So try to find a good x to evaluate the functions in.
So in that case does ##\arctan (x-1) + \pi / 2 =2 \arctan (x-1 + \sqrt{(x-1)^2+1})##? I'm not sure how to check it.
 
Let me be a little more specific. You know ##f'(x) = g'(x)##

Hence there exists a constant c such that ##f(x) = c + g(x)##

Now, you can start to find that constant by plugging in values of x.

In your example, put for example ##x = 1##.

Then ##0 = \arctan(0) = c + 2\arctan(1)##

Hence, ##c = -2 \arctan(1) = -2 \pi/4 = - \pi/2##

and indeed, ##\pi/2## works if you add it on the left.
 
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The input x-1 is an unnecessary complication for the actual result, and we could also state that the formula

<br /> D_x \arctan\big(x + \sqrt{1 + x^2}\big) = \frac{1}{2}\frac{1}{1 + x^2}<br />

is true.
 

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