Find the constants for given IVP

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The discussion revolves around finding constants for a given initial value problem (IVP) related to differential equations. Participants are working with the derivatives of functions involving exponential and trigonometric components.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the differentiation of a function involving products of exponential and trigonometric terms, with some questioning the application of the product rule. There are attempts to clarify the correct differentiation process and how to apply initial conditions.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the differentiation process and suggested alternative forms for the solution. There is acknowledgment of mistakes in differentiation, and the conversation reflects a collaborative effort to clarify the approach without reaching a consensus on the final solution.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the application of the product rule and the setup of the initial conditions, which may affect the participants' ability to solve the problem correctly.

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y ' = 4C1e-4xSinX - 4C2e-4xCosX

y'(0) = -1

-1 = 0 - 4C2

Therefore

C2 = 1/4

Not correct. What am I doing wrong?
 
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You didn't differentiate correctly. You have to use the product rule.
 
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Sigh... obviously. Can't believe I just did that. Thanks!
 
Feodalherren said:
What am I doing wrong?
  1. [itex]y=c_{1}e^{-4x}cos(x)+c_{2}e^{-4x}sin(x)[/itex]
  2. [itex]y'=c_{1}(-4e^{-4x}cos(x)-e^{-4x}sin(x))+c_{2}(-4e^{-4x}sin(x)+e^{-4x}cos(x))[/itex]
Now insert for y(0) and y'(0) and solve.
 
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Personally, I would find it easier to write the solution as [itex]y= e^{-4x}(C_1 cos(x)+ C_2 sin(x))[/itex].

Then, by the product rule, [itex]y'= -4e^{-4x}(C_1 cos(x)+ C_2 sin(x))+ e^{-4x}(-C_1 sin(x)+ C_2 cos(x))[/itex].
 
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Yeah I got it dudes. I was just being stupid and completely forgot the product rule.

Thanks
 

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