Find the curvature at a point(vector function)

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the curvature of a vector function r(t) = at a specific point P(1,0,0). The context is within the subject area of vector calculus, specifically focusing on curvature calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to determine the correct value of t that corresponds to the point P(1,0,0). There is also a focus on verifying the calculations of the derivatives and the cross product involved in the curvature formula.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on identifying the appropriate value of t and suggesting recalculating the cross product after substituting this value. There is acknowledgment of potential errors in the original calculations, but no consensus on the final outcome has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of the curvature formula and the implications of their calculations, particularly regarding the derivatives and cross product. There is an emphasis on ensuring the correct value of t is used in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


Find the curvature of r(t)= <t^2, lnt, t lnt> at the point P(1,0,0)


Homework Equations


K(t) = |r'(t) x r''(t)|/(|r'(t)|^3)


The Attempt at a Solution


r'(t) = <2t, t^-1, lnt+1>
r''(t) = <2, -t^-2, t^-1>

|r'(t) x r''(t)| = sqrt[t^-4(4 + 4 lnt + ln^2t) + (4 ln^2t)]
|r'(t)| = sqrt[4t^2 + t^-2 + (ln^2t +2 lnt + 1)]

I don't know what value of (t) to sub into K(t) to get my final answer. I also have a feeling that my cross product is not right. Any help would be much appreciated.
 
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You want (t^2, ln(t), tln(t))= (1, 0, 0).

What value of t gives you that?

You are right that your cross product is wrong. Put your value of t into r' and r'' before calculating the cross product. That will simplify it a lot.
 
Thanks a lot HallsofIvy, t = 1 provided I did the rest of the question right.
 
t= 1 whether you did the rest of the problem right or not!
 

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