Find the distance with the relativity problem

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The problem involves a scenario where a character named Popeye is sailing across a channel with a current and wind affecting his trajectory. The objective is to calculate the distance traveled north along the west bank between his starting and finishing points, considering the velocities of the boat, current, and wind direction.

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  • Participants discuss the components of velocity and how they relate to the boat's movement across the channel. There is an attempt to calculate the time taken to cross based on the eastward component of velocity. Some participants express uncertainty about the distance calculations and question the correctness of the values used.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding how to approach the calculation of time to cross the channel, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct interpretation of distances involved.

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Participants are working with the assumption that the current and wind are affecting the boat's trajectory, and there is a need to clarify the distances and velocities involved in the calculations. There is also a mention of an error in the initial description of the current's direction.

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Popeye was sailing his boat in a straight channel one half km wide. The steady current flows south at four km/h and a wind blows from the north, parallel to the current. Popeye starts from the west shore. He sets his sail and tiller so that he moves diagonally across and up the channel. The velocity of the boat with respect to the water is twelve km/h in a direction 45° East of North. When he gets very close to the east shore, he stops readjusts the sil and tiller, and establishes an identical upstream tack back toward the west bank (his direction through the water is now 45° West of north). Due to lack of spinach, he was effectively stopped in the water for one whole minute at the turn around. Calculate the distance measured north along the west bank between his start and finish points.

I have created a little description image by myself:
http://s1323.beta.photobucket.com/user/mommadaddy2/media/hhh_zpsa050c917.jpg.html
This image has a error the current is at the same side as wind

The Attempt at a Solution


okay this is how i decided to start this off.
V of current to water = Vcurrent to boat + V boat to water
V = 4 km/h [ S ] + 12 km/h [E 45 N]
V = 4 km/h + 8.485 km/h [ E] + 8.485 km/h [N]
V = 4.485 km/h [ N] + 8.485 km/h [ E]
i do not know what to do next
 
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Can you use your eastward component of velocity to find the time to cross the channel from the west shore to the east shore?
 
TSny said:
Can you use your eastward component of velocity to find the time to cross the channel from the west shore to the east shore?

alright so the velocity is 12 km/h and the distance is 1.5 km
1.5 km/ 12 km/h = 0.125 h
 
Please Wait said:
alright so the velocity is 12 km/h and the distance is 1.5 km
1.5 km/ 12 km/h = 0.125 h

What distance is 1.5 km? I don't believe this is correct.
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Instead, try to answer the following two questions:

(a) How far east does the boat need to travel to get across the channel? The boat will also travel some in the north direction, but just think about how far the boat needs to move eastward to get across.

(b) What is the rate at which the boat moves eastward? (Hint: this is just another way of asking for the eastward component of velocity.) You've already calculated it in your first post.

Use the answers to (a) and (b) to find the time to cross the channel from the west side to the east side.
 
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