Undergrad Find the Eigenvalues and eigenvectors of 3x3 matrix

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The discussion focuses on finding the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of a 3x3 matrix A, given specific equations involving vectors and their corresponding eigenvalues. The first two equations suggest eigenvalues of 6 and 3, with associated eigenvectors [1, 2, 1] and [1, -1, 1]. The third equation indicates that the eigenspace for the eigenvalue 3 is two-dimensional, spanned by [1, -1, 1] and [2, -1, 0]. Participants clarify that all linear combinations of these vectors are also eigenvectors for their respective eigenvalues. The conversation concludes with considerations about the linear independence of the vectors and the implications for the matrix's properties.
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Assume a table A(3x3) with the following:

A [ 1 2 1 ]^T = 6 [ 1 2 1 ]^T
A [ 1 -1 1 ]^T = 3 [ 1 -1 1 ]^T
A [ 2 -1 0]^T = 3 [ 1 -1 1]^T

Find the Eigenvalues and eigenvectors:

I have in mind to start with the Av=λv or det(A-λI)v=0....

Also, the first 2 equations seems to have the form Av=λv:
So maybe, u1= [ 1 2 1 ] with λ=6 and u2= [1 -1 1] with λ=3 .......but what about 3rd ?
 
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Why don't you get A explicitly at first ?
 
anuttarasammyak said:
Why don't you get A explicitly at first ?
Matrix A is not given, only those equations.
 
Those equations are equivalent to a product relation of 3X3 matrices say
AB=C
So explicitly
A=CB^{-1}
...But I see getting explicit A is not a straight forward way
 
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Michael_0039 said:
Assume a table A(3x3) with the following:

A [ 1 2 1 ]^T = 6 [ 1 2 1 ]^T
A [ 1 -1 1 ]^T = 3 [ 1 -1 1 ]^T
A [ 2 -1 0]^T = 3 [ 1 -1 1]^T

Find the Eigenvalues and eigenvectors:

I have in mind to start with the Av=λv or det(A-λI)v=0....

Also, the first 2 equations seems to have the form Av=λv:
So maybe, u1= [ 1 2 1 ] with λ=6 and u2= [1 -1 1] with λ=3 .......but what about 3rd ?
Correct.

The second and third means, that the eigenspace to the eigenvalue ##3## has dimension two. It is spanned by ##(1,-1,1)^\tau## and ##(2,-1,0)^\tau.##
 
So the answer will be:
λ1=6 with u1=[ 1 2 1 ]T
λ2=3 with u2=[ 1 -1 1 ]T and u3=[ 2 -1 0 ]T

(?)
 
Michael_0039 said:
So the answer will be:
λ1=6 with u1=[ 1 2 1 ]T
λ2=3 with u2=[ 1 -1 1 ]T and u3=[ 2 -1 0 ]T

(?)
Yes.

I mean, almost.
All linear combinations of ##(1,2,1)## (i.e. all multiples of) are eigenvectors to the eigenvalue ##6,## too.
All linear combinations of ##(1,-1,1)## and ##(2,-1,0)## are eigenvectors to the eigenvalue ##3,## too.
 
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@Michael_0039 note my edit. You've been too fast.

If ##v_1,\ldots,v_n## are all eigenvectors to the same eigenvalue ##\lambda ## then
$$
A\left(\sum_{k=1}^n \alpha_k v_k\right)=\sum_{k=1}^n\alpha_k A(v_k)=\sum_{k=1}^n\alpha_k \lambda v_k=\lambda \cdot \left(\sum_{k=1}^n\alpha_k v_k\right)
$$
all linear combinations are eigenvectors to the eigenvalue ##\lambda, ## too.
 
So for the 2nd question: Is A reversible or/and diagonal ?
The answer if A-1 exists is λ12≠0 and is non-diagonal because λ2 has reached one time but has 2 eigenvectors (?)
 
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Michael_0039 said:
So for the 22nd question: Is A reversible ...
What do you think? Hint: not reversible implies not injective. Now, what does not injective mean?

Michael_0039 said:
... or/and diagonal
Are those three vectors linearly independent? If so, they will be a basis. How does ##A## look like according to that basis?
 
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Michael_0039 said:
A [ 1 -1 1 ]^T = 3 [ 1 -1 1 ]^T
A [ 2 -1 0]^T = 3 [ 1 -1 1]^T
By subtraction I observe
A[-1,0,1]^T=[0,0,0]^T=0[-1,0,1]^T
which suggests ##\lambda=0,3,6## in all.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Correct.

The second and third means, that the eigenspace to the eigenvalue ##3## has dimension two. It is spanned by ##(1,-1,1)^\tau## and ##(2,-1,0)^\tau.##

The second and third equations tell us that (2, -1, 0)^T - (1, -1, 1)^T = (1,0,-1)^T \in \ker A.
 
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pasmith said:
The second and third equations tell us that (2, -1, 0)^T - (1, -1, 1)^T = (1,0,-1)^T \in \ker A.
Thank you. My mistake! I mistook it for ##A(2,-1,0)=(2,-1,0).##

@Michael_0039 Forget my posts. I was thinking about a different situation.
 

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