Find the electric field produced by a 2.5uC point charge at distance of 0.75m

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field produced by a 2.5 μC point charge at a distance of 0.75 m. The relevant equation for this calculation is noted, and participants explore the implications of charge units and their conversions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the correct interpretation of the charge value and its unit, μC, and its conversion to standard units. There are attempts to recalculate the electric field based on clarifications about unit conversions and the implications of including constants in calculations.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing clarifications and corrections regarding unit conversions and the application of formulas. Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and seek confirmation of their understanding. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive directions are being explored.

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Participants mention constraints related to homework deadlines and the need to apply the electric field value to further calculations involving potential energy. There is a focus on ensuring that the correct units are used throughout the calculations.

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Homework Statement



Find the electric field produced by a 2.5uC point charge at distance of 0.75m.

E = ___ V/m2. Homework Equations

E = kq/r^2

3. The Attempt at a Solution

E = (9x10^9 Nm^2/C^2)(25)/(0.75)^2 = 400 x 10^9 V/m

What do you guys think?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Is the charge q = 2.5 μC, or 25 μC? And what's the 'μ' in 'μC" mean? :wink:
 
oh :biggrin: It´s 2.5 and by "u" I meant 'μ'. Thanks.

So, correcting my answer, I will have:

E = (9x10^9 Nm^2/C^2)(2.5 μC)/(0.75m)^2 = 40 x 10^9 V/m
 
Am I supposed to include 10^9 as part of my answer?

Oh, please, help me with this. I need to finish this for tomorrow. I am supposed to use the value I get for E to find PE, I believe, of a 2.5μC charge of opposite sign at the distance 0.75m, I think.
 
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No, that's not what he was meaning. What does \mu mean with the SI/base-10 system of units? To give you a hint, what would 2.5mC mean? Or 2.5kC?
 
Well, I know that indicates the charge and that 1μC = 10^6C. :confused: Is this what you´re asking?
 
Yes. You didn't include that part in your calculation. That's your problem.
 
:cry: Oh nooo. I guess I have several wrong answers then.

Ok, let me see:

If 1μC = 10^-6
Then, 2.5μC = 10^-15?

In that case, = (9x10^9 Nm^2/C^2)(2.5μC x 10^-15)/(0.75)^2 = 22.5/ 0.5625 = 40 x 10^-15 x 10^9 = 40 x 10^-6 V/m

I have 3 problems in which I didn´t include the value 10^-6.

1) Calculate the magnitude of E-field produced by 12μC point charge at a distance of 0.2m.
2) Calculate the force acting on a charge of 10μC placed in an electric field of E = 500V/m.
3) Two positive charges of 4μC each are located at a distance of 10 cm from each other. What´s the magnitude of the force exerted on each other?

In all these cases, I am supposed to include the value for μ, right?
 
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What? Where did you get 10^{-15}?!
 
  • #10
domyy said:
:cry: Oh nooo. I guess I have several wrong answers then.

Ok, let me see:

If 1μC = 10^-6
Then, 2.5μC = 10^-15?

In that case, = (9x10^9 Nm^2/C^2)(2.5μC x 10^-15)/(0.75)^2 = 22.5/ 0.5625 = 40 x 10^-15 x 10^9 = 40 x 10^-6 V/m

Let me help you out.

1 μC = 1 x 10-6 C.
(One micro-coulomb equals 1 x 10-6 Coulombs. One micro-coulomb equals one millionth of a Coulomb.)

So 2.5 μC = 2.5 x 10-6 C.
 
  • #11
Oh I understand.

(9x10^9 Nm^2/C^2)(2.5μC x 10^-6)/(0.75)^2 = 22.5/ 0.5625 = 40 x 10^-6 x 10^9 = 40 x 10^3 V/m

Now if my answer is correct, I am supposed to use this value to find PE of 2.5μC charge of opposite sign at 0.75m.

PE = QED
= (40 x 10^3 V/M)(2.5μC x 10^-6)(0.75) = 75 x 10-3
 
  • #12
domyy said:
Oh I understand.

(9x10^9 Nm^2/C^2)(2.5μC x 10^-6)/(0.75)^2 = 22.5/ 0.5625 = 40 x 10^-6 x 10^9 = 40 x 10^3 V/m

To be clear, 2.5\mu C \times 10^{-6} is not correct, it is 2.5 \times 10^{-6}C.

domyy said:
Now if my answer is correct, I am supposed to use this value to find PE of 2.5μC charge of opposite sign at 0.75m.

PE = QED
= (40 x 10^3 V/M)(2.5μC x 10^-6)(0.75) = 75 x 10-3

No. Remember, that formula only works when the electric field along the distance, D, is constant. In this case, moving the other charge in from infinity (the assumption is typically that when the charges are an infinite distance apart, the potential energy is 0) will not give a constant electric field.

The potential energy for a pair of point-charge, brought in from infinity, is given by PE = {{kq_1 q_2}\over{r}}
 
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It´s said it´s a charge of opposite sign. Does it mean q1 = 2.5 and q2 = -2.5 ?
 
  • #14
domyy said:
It´s said it´s a charge of opposite sign. Does it mean q1 = 2.5 and q2 = -2.5 ?

Yes (with the 10^{-6}).
 
  • #15
domyy said:
Oh I understand.

(9x10^9 Nm^2/C^2)(2.5μC x 10^-6)/(0.75)^2 = 22.5/ 0.5625 = 40 x 10^-6 x 10^9 = 40 x 10^3 V/m
Okay, that looks right (the final answer that is, after making note of what Pengwuino points out about the 2.5μC x 10^-6) :approve:
Now if my answer is correct, I am supposed to use this value to find PE of 2.5μC charge of opposite sign at 0.75m.

PE = QED
= (40 x 10^3 V/M)(2.5μC x 10^-6)(0.75) = 75 x 10-3
It doesn't work out that way in this case. That general approach would work if you are trying to calculate the difference in potential energy of moving a charge within a uniform electric field. But the electric field created by a point charge is not uniform.

If this homework is from a calculus based physics class, you can work out the potential energy formula by evaluating (via dW = F·ds)

P.E. = -\int_{\infty}^r k \frac{q_1 q_2}{r^{'2}}dr^'

but I'm guessing that this is not a calculus based physics class. If it's not a calculus based physics class, there should be a different formula provided (in your textbook/coursework) which gives you the potential energy of bringing two point charges together. [Edit: See Peng's response. He gives you the formula.]
 
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PE = ( 9 x 10^9)(2.5 x 10^-6)(-2.5 x 10^-6)/ (0.75)^2 = 56.25 x 10^-3/ 0.5625 = 100 x 10^-3

I hope this is correct :rolleyes:
 
  • #17
domyy said:
PE = ( 9 x 10^9)(2.5 x 10^-6)(-2.5 x 10^-6)/ (0.75)^2 = 56.25 x 10^-3/ 0.5625 = 100 x 10^-3

I hope this is correct :rolleyes:
Look more carefully at the formula that Peng gave in post #12. The fact that the r in the denominator is not squared is not a mistake. :wink: (Also, you forgot about a minus sign somewhere.)

[Edit: and where did the "0.5625" come from? :rolleyes:]

[Another edit: Okay, I just noticed that 0.5625 comes from 0.752. But the overall use still isn't quite right. I suggest just starting from using Pengs equation for PE, given in post 12.]
 
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  • #18
PE = (9 x 10^9)(2.5 x 10^-6)(-2.5 x 10^-6)/ (0.75)^2 = 56.25 x 10^-3/ 0.75 = - 75 x 10^-3

:redface:
 
  • #19
All the clarifications that both of you made are really relevant. They will be very helpful while I do the other exercises. I missed small steps while applying the formulas and because of your clarifications, I will go back to previous questions and correct the mistakes.

Thank you SO MUCH!:blushing:
 

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