Find the fourier series of (sinx)^3

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the Fourier series of the function (sinx)^3. Participants explore various methods, identities, and potential misunderstandings related to the Fourier coefficients and the properties of the function.

Discussion Character

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about obtaining only sine terms when calculating the Fourier sine coefficients for (sinx)^3, questioning if there is an identity that simplifies the process.
  • Another participant suggests that the integral of (sinx)^3 multiplied by sin(kx) over the interval from 0 to π should not necessarily yield zero for certain values of k, such as k=1 or k=3.
  • A different participant proposes that expanding sin^3(x) using trigonometric identities could simplify the process, comparing it to the expansion of sin^2(x).
  • One participant recommends using the complex definitions of sine and cosine to derive the Fourier series, indicating that this approach could streamline the calculation.
  • Another participant provides a detailed expansion of sin^3(x) using trigonometric identities, leading to a specific expression involving sin(x) and sin(3x), while cautioning about potential arithmetic errors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to find the Fourier series of (sinx)^3. There are multiple competing views on how to handle the integral and the use of identities, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of using trigonometric identities and expansions, but there are unresolved questions about the behavior of the integrals for specific values of k, as well as potential arithmetic errors in the expansions presented.

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I'm confused.

Trying to find the Fourier series of (sinx)^3. This is an odd function, so I try to find the Fourier sine coefficient, with integral of (sinx)^3*sinkx. However, my answer comes up with all sine terms. Of course all these terms go to zero when integrating between 0 and pi. Am I doing something wrong? Or is there some identity for sinx^3 that makes it easier to solve?
 
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fhidiort said:
Of course all these terms go to zero when integrating between 0 and pi. Am I doing something wrong?

If you draw a graph of the function you are trying to integrate, you will see that you are doing something wrong, since the area under the curve isn't zero.

There are some standard identities that will help. Try expanding sin 3x = sin (2x + x), then sin 2x = sin(x+x) and cos2x = cos(x+x) and see what you get.
 
So you're telling me that

∫_{0}^{π}sin kxsin³xdx =0

necessarily?

What if k=3 or k=1 ?

Daniel.
 
fhidiort said:
I'm confused. Trying to find the Fourier series of (sinx)^3.
Actually, you don't even have to go through all that suffering. Whenever you want to find the Fourier series of a [tex]\sin^3(x)[/tex] or [tex]\cos^5(x)[/tex] or something, you just have to expand it out as a sum of first order sine and cosine terms--just like you would expand [tex]\sin(x)^[/tex] into [tex]\frac{1-cos(2x)}{2}[/tex].

In order to expand things like [tex]\sin^3(x)[/tex] or [tex]\cos^5(x)[/tex], just replace the sine and cosine term with its standard complex definition i.e.

[tex]\cos z=\frac{e^{iz}+e^{-iz}}2[/tex]

[tex]\sin z=\frac{e^{iz}-e^{-iz}}{2i}[/tex]

and then just simplify and convert everything back to rectangular form.
 
Use trig identities to write it as a "trigonometric polynomial". [itex]sin^2(x)= \frac{1}{2}(1- cos(2x))[/itex] so [itex]sin^3(x)= \frac{1}{2}(sin(x)- sin(x)cos(2x))[/itex]. Since sin(a+b)= sin(a)cos(b)+ cos(a)sin(b) and sin(a-b)= sin(a)cos(b)- cos(a)sin(b), sin(a)cos(b)= (1/2)(sin(a+b)+ sin(a-b)) and, in particular, sin(x)cos(2x)= (1/2)(sin(3x)- sin(x)). That is, [itex]sin^3(x)= \frac{1}{2}sin(x)- \frac{1}{4}(sin(3x)- sin(x)= \frac{3}{4}sin(x)- \frac{1}{4}sin(3x)[/itex] (modulo arithmetic errors!).
 

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