Find the image of a two variable function

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the image of a two-variable function defined on integers, specifically the function f(x, y) = x² - y². Participants explore methods to determine the image set, considering their previous experiences with single-variable functions and the implications of the function's definition.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to find the image of the function and notes the challenges of visualizing it in a 3D graph.
  • Another participant clarifies that the image of the function is a subset of the target space and suggests a general form for the image set.
  • A participant questions how to state the image more accurately, comparing it to a simpler function and emphasizing the need for precise definitions.
  • One participant proposes that if Z represents the set of all integers, then the image of f includes all odd integers and integers divisible by 4, providing reasoning for this conclusion.
  • Participants discuss the implications of the function's evenness and the conditions under which integers appear in the image set.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the precise characterization of the image of the function, as participants present different interpretations and reasoning regarding the elements included in the image set.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of defining the set Z clearly, as it affects the determination of the image. There are also unresolved questions about the conditions under which certain integers belong to the image.

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So on my first course of Algebra in university I have been asked to find the image of the following function:
f : Z x Z -> Z, f(x, y) = x2 - y2

In high school I worked only with single variable functions and I could have found the image by drawing its graph, using limits or using some specific shortcuts on well known functions (like the quadratic one).
I really have no idea how should I find the image of this one. Actually I don't even know how to plot it, I think its graph is 3D. Can somebody point me in the right direction?
 
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Synapse0x said:
So on my first course of Algebra in university I have been asked to find the image of the following function:
f : Z x Z -> Z, f(x, y) = x2 - y2

In high school I worked only with single variable functions and I could have found the image by drawing its graph, using limits or using some specific shortcuts on well known functions (like the quadratic one).
I really have no idea how should I find the image of this one. Actually I don't even know how to plot it, I think its graph is 3D. Can somebody point me in the right direction?

You are not required to sketch the graph of the function.

The image of a function is a subset of the target space of the function.

You need to say what is $Z$ exactly?

As of now, my answer would be $\text{Im}(f)=\{x^2-y^2: (x,y)\in Z\times Z\}$.
 
Yes, in other words what is Z exactly.

Your current answer makes sense but how should I state it more accurately. I mean what your wrote is not wrong but it would be the same as saying that the image of g, where g : R -> R, g(x) = x2 - 4x + 1, is {x2 - 4x + 1 : x in R} instead of [-3, +infinity)
 
Synapse0x said:
Yes, in other words what is Z exactly.

Your current answer makes sense but how should I state it more accurately. I mean what your wrote is not wrong but it would be the same as saying that the image of g, where g : R -> R, g(x) = x2 - 4x + 1, is {x2 - 4x + 1 : x in R} instead of [-3, +infinity)

I think by $Z$ you mean the set of all the integers.

In that case, the image of $f$ is $\{n\in\mathbb Z: n \text{ is odd }\}\cup \{n\in \mathbb Z: 4 \text{ divides } n\}$.

To see this, first note that $f(y+1,y)=2y+1$.

Thus all the odd integers are in the image.

Now suppose $f(x,y)$ is even.

Then $2$ divides $(x-y)(x+y)$.

But then $4$ divides $(x-y)(x+y)$ (why?)

So if an even integer is in the image, then it have to be divisible by $4$.

Finally note that $f(y+2,y)=4(y+1)$.

Thus all the integers which are divisible by $4$ are in the image.
 

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