Find the interval for a valid x between a & b.

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The discussion revolves around determining the interval for valid values of x in the equation \(\sqrt{3-x}\sqrt{x+9}=8x+1\). Participants are tasked with identifying the constraints on x that make the left side of the equation definable.

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  • Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the conditions under which the square roots are defined, questioning the implications of the radicals in the equation. There are discussions about squaring both sides of the equation and the resulting forms, as well as the need to find the interval for x.

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Several participants are engaged in clarifying the definitions of the square roots involved and the implications for the values of x. There is a recognition that the problem requires identifying a range rather than solving for specific values. Some participants suggest potential endpoints for the interval, while others emphasize the need to consider the range of values.

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Participants note that the answer should consist of integers, and there is some confusion regarding the interpretation of the problem, particularly in relation to the endpoints of the interval.

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Homework Statement


The left side in the equation [itex]\sqrt{3-x}[/itex][itex]\sqrt{x+9}[/itex]=8x+1 is only definable when x is located in a certain interval a [itex]\leq[/itex] x [itex]\leq[/itex] b. What's a & b? (Note: The answer ought to be integers)

The Attempt at a Solution


[itex]\sqrt{3-x}[/itex][itex]\sqrt{x+9}[/itex]=8x+1

([itex]\sqrt{3-x}[/itex][itex]\sqrt{x+9}[/itex])2=(8x+1)2

Which should lead to this:

(3-x)*2([itex]\sqrt{3-x}[/itex][itex]\sqrt{x+9}[/itex])(x+9)=64x2+22x-26

The problem now is, what shall I do next? Expand the parentheses?
Well.. If I do that then what? I'll obviously get a quadratic equation. Any advise what to do with the left side? Those roots are hopeless.
 
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Gliese123 said:

Homework Statement


The left side in the equation [itex]\sqrt{3-x}[/itex][itex]\sqrt{x+9}[/itex]=8x+1 is only definable when x is located in a certain interval a [itex]\leq[/itex] x [itex]\leq[/itex] b. What's a & b? (Note: The answer ought to be integers)

The Attempt at a Solution


[itex]\sqrt{3-x}[/itex][itex]\sqrt{x+9}[/itex]=8x+1

([itex]\sqrt{3-x}[/itex][itex]\sqrt{x+9}[/itex])2=(8x+1)2

Which should lead to this:

(3-x)*2([itex]\sqrt{3-x}[/itex][itex]\sqrt{x+9}[/itex])(x+9)=64x2+22x-26

No. What is the square of ##\sqrt{x}##?

Instead of squaring, look at the radicals first. For what values of x, is ##\sqrt{3-x}## is defined? When ##\sqrt{x+9}## is defined?
 
Also, the way the problem is stated, you aren't asked to solve anything. Just find the interval. And it won't be just integers, unless you just mean the end points are integers.
 
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Thank you for answering.
The square of [itex]\sqrt{x}[/itex] is x.
What do you mean by the radicals? Like when the two x have a certain value and summarizes to then have the same number under the root?
 
-6 & 0 perhaps?
 
Gliese123 said:
Thank you for answering.
The square of [itex]\sqrt{x}[/itex] is x.
So what is the sqaure of ##\sqrt{3-x}\sqrt{x+9}##? :rolleyes:

Anyways, you need not worry about it at the moment.
What do you mean by the radicals?

By radicals, I mean those square roots and the stuff inside them. For what values of x is ##\sqrt{3-x}## defined?
 
:redface: (3-x)(x+9)

By radicals, I mean those square roots and the stuff inside them. For what values of x is √(3-x) defined?
3? Sorry, I'm retarded. By defined, is it meant to become 0?
 
Gliese123 said:
3? Sorry, I'm retarded. By defined, is it meant to become 0?

Nooo. :redface:

##\sqrt{3-x}## is defined for 3 but the question asks for the range of values of x. For ##\sqrt{x}## to be defined, x should either greater than or equal to zero. Do you get an idea now?
 
Ahaaaaaa... :rolleyes: :thumbs:
So 0 ? I don't f**king know.
 
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Sorry. I'll go to sleep. This is too difficult for me. Thank you for the help.
 
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Shouldn't it just be 3 and -9 ?
 
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Gliese123 said:
Shouldn't it just be 3 and -9 ?

What should be "just 3 and -9"? Are you talking about the values of x? Then no. I already said that you need to find the range of values of x.

##\sqrt{3-x}## is defined when ##3-x \geq 0##. Do you understand why?
 
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Gliese123 said:
Shouldn't it just be 3 and -9 ?
well, that is correct if you mean they are the endpoints of the 'allowed' interval of x values.
 

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