Find the Magnitude of the Magnetic Field in a moving loop

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a conducting square loop moving in a magnetic field, specifically examining the induced electromotive force (emf) as the loop crosses into a region with a uniform magnetic field. The loop is oriented in the xy-plane and moves at a constant speed, with the task of determining the magnitude of the magnetic field based on the induced emf.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the emf equation and question whether it is appropriate for a square loop rather than a straight wire. There are attempts to relate the induced emf to the magnetic field using different approaches, including the concept of magnetic flux and the time taken for the loop to enter the magnetic field.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions regarding the magnetic field's boundaries and the conditions under which the emf is induced. Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between the loop's motion and the magnetic field, while others seek clarification on the specifics of the magnetic field's characteristics.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of a complete problem statement and the implications of the loop entering a magnetic field with defined boundaries. There is a consensus on the direction of the magnetic field, but the exact nature of the field's boundaries and their impact on the induced emf remains a point of discussion.

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Homework Statement


A conducting square loop placed in the xy plane (oriented with its horizontal and vertical sides parallel to the x and y axes) moves to the right across the y-axis at a constant speed of 2.0 m/s, a 0.63-V emf is induced in the loop. If the side length of the loop is 0.30 m, what is the magnitude of the magnetic field?

Homework Equations


EMF = Blv

The Attempt at a Solution


So my EMF is 0.63, V = 2.0m/s, l = .30m and B is unknown

Thus
0.63 T*m^2*s^-1/(2.0m*s^-1 * .30m) = B
0.63 T/.6 = B

1.05 T = B

Not sure where I'm going wrong here.
 
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Isn't your equation for a straight section of wire only, not for a square loop ?

And what is known of the magnetic field? A direction, where are the bounds, is it constant ?
 
Magnetic Field is constant, the direction is into the positive z direction (guess I missed that part). I've tried to use ΔΦ/Δt, but not sure I did it right. Tried to take that fact it's traveling at 2m/s and the loop is 0.30 that

Δt= 0.30m/2m/s giving me 0.15 seconds to go through completely into the magnetic field.
a = 0.09m2
emf = 0.63 T*m2

Thus

0.63=(B)*(0.09)/0.15s

0.63*0.15/(0.09) = B

1.05 T = B

Gives the same answer.
 
BvU has a good point here, when asking about the magnetic field's boundaries.

If the magnetic field and loop have a constant, perpendicular orientation [that is the field is perpendicular to the sides, parallel with the loop's normal], the loop's size is fixed, and the field is not changing with time, then the loop needs to be passing into or out of one of the magnetic field's boundaries in order to get an emf.

In short, something or other needs to be causing a change to the magnetic flux through the loop, otherwise an emf would not be occurring.

Is there anything more you can tell us about the magnetic field (boundary edges, etc.), or something about the loop changing size or orientation?

[Edit: Btw, the 1.05 T figure is correct if the loop is entering or leaving a boundary that is parallel with the loop's side, and spans the entire side. But if that doesn't give the correct answer, is that at least the correct description of the boundary?]
 
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collinsmark said:
BvU has a good point here, when asking about the magnetic field's boundaries.

If the magnetic field and loop have a constant, perpendicular orientation [that is the field is perpendicular to the sides, parallel with the loop's normal], the loop's size is fixed, and the field is not changing with time, then the loop needs to be passing into or out of one of the magnetic field's boundaries in order to get an emf.

In short, something or other needs to be causing a change to the magnetic flux through the loop, otherwise an emf would not be occurring.

Is there anything more you can tell us about the magnetic field (boundary edges, etc.), or something about the loop changing size or orientation?

[Edit: Btw, the 1.05 T figure is correct if the loop is entering or leaving a boundary that is parallel with the loop's side, and spans the entire side. But if that doesn't give the correct answer, is that at least the correct description of the boundary?]

The space to the right of the y-axis contains a uniform magnetic field of unknown magnitude that points in the positive z direction. As a conducting square loop placed in the xy plane (oriented with its horizontal and vertical sides parallel to the x and y axes) moves to the right across the y-axis at a constant speed of
2.0 m/s, a 0.63-V emf is induced in the loop.
If the side length of the loop is
0.30 m, what is the magnitude of the magnetic field?

Copied and pasted exactly. It's entering the magnetic field. That's all I get.

It's entering the magnetic field, nothing about magnetic field's boundaries.
 
Shinwasha said:
The space to the right of the y-axis contains a uniform magnetic field of unknown magnitude that points in the positive z direction. As a conducting square loop placed in the xy plane (oriented with its horizontal and vertical sides parallel to the x and y axes) moves to the right across the y-axis at a constant speed of
2.0 m/s, a 0.63-V emf is induced in the loop.
If the side length of the loop is
0.30 m, what is the magnitude of the magnetic field?

Copied and pasted exactly. It's entering the magnetic field. That's all I get.

It's entering the magnetic field, nothing about magnetic field's boundaries.
The boundary is the y-axis.

For regions where x < 0, there is no magnetic field at all. For regions where x > 0, there is a magnetic field of unknown magnitude that points in the z direction. That's what was meant by saying, "the space to the right of the y-axis contains a uniform magnetic field of unknown [...]" That specifies the boundary, assuming that the space to the left of the y-axis contains 0 magnetic field. That's the assumption that I would make anyway.

That said, your answer of 1.05 T looks right to me. :smile:
 
Shinwasha said:
That's all I get
Makes a big difference with post #1, though. I understand you didn't realize that when you posted, but it sure is a reminder that a complete and concise problem statement is extremely important, not only for yourself (to order your thoughts and get lined up for the equation gathering phase), but also to get adequate assistance !
And putting together the relevant equations is indispensable too - if necessary in more than one iteration.:rolleyes:
 

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