Find the Magnitude of the Normal Force on the Slider and v'

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a slider being propelled upward along a fixed curved bar in a vertical plane. The objective is to determine the magnitude of the normal force exerted by the rod on the slider and the rate of change of the slider's speed, assuming negligible friction.

Discussion Character

  • Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss free body diagrams and the forces acting on the slider, including normal and tangential forces. There are questions about the direction of radial acceleration and its relationship to normal acceleration. Some participants explore the tangential forces and accelerations involved.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between forces and accelerations. Some participants have provided calculations and expressed uncertainty about specific aspects of the problem, particularly regarding the tangential acceleration and its implications for the overall solution.

Contextual Notes

Assumptions include negligible friction and the need to clarify the definitions of radial and tangential components of acceleration. Participants are also checking their calculations against a system for validation.

Northbysouth
Messages
241
Reaction score
2

Homework Statement


A 2.4-lb slider is propelled upward at A along the fixed curved bar which lies in a vertical plane. If the slider is observed to have a speed of 11.3 ft/sec as it passes position B, determine (a) the magnitude N of the force exerted by the fixed rod on the slider and (b) the rate at which the speed of the slider is changing (positive if speeding up, negative if slowing down). Assume that friction is negligible.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



For part a I drew a FBD of the slider and assigned the normal and tangential axes. I can also see that the normal force and the weight of the slider are the only forces acting on the slider.

ƩFen = man = N - mgcos(31)

m(v2/r) = N - mgcos(31)

I then solved for N and I get 6.383 lbf

I'm unsure about part b. Any suggestions?
 

Attachments

  • dyn 3.048.png
    dyn 3.048.png
    20.6 KB · Views: 1,117
Physics news on Phys.org
Northbysouth said:
ƩFen = man = N - mgcos(31)

m(v2/r) = N - mgcos(31)
What's the direction of the radial acceleration? (Check your signs.)

I'm unsure about part b. Any suggestions?
What force acts tangentially?
 
When you say radial acceleration are you referring to the normal acceleration? I don't quite see the point you're making.

The force acting tangentially would be:

F=ma

so it would be the tangential acceleration*mass.
 
Northbysouth said:
When you say radial acceleration are you referring to the normal acceleration? I don't quite see the point you're making.
You can call it the normal acceleration if you like. Which way does it point? Towards the center or away? Which way does the radial component of gravity point?

The force acting tangentially would be:

F=ma

so it would be the tangential acceleration*mass.
Well, sure. But the tangential acceleration is what you need to find. So what is the tangential force?
 
You can call it the normal acceleration if you like. Which way does it point? Towards the center or away? Which way does the radial component of gravity point?

Oh, the positive normal axis points towards the center of the curve, so it should be:

ƩFen = mgcos(31) - N = mv2/r

N = mgcos(31) - mv2/r

N = -2.2688 lbf

Well, sure. But the tangential acceleration is what you need to find. So what is the tangential force?

Correct me if I'm wrong:

ƩFet = mat = -mgsin(31)

Solving for at = -gsin(31)

at = -32.2*sin(31)

at = -16.58 ft/sec2

I've just checked my answers with the system and it says they're correct.

Thanks for your help Doc Al. The second part was a lot more straight forward than I thought.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
6K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
31K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
7K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
7K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K