Find the modulus of ##\dfrac{(2-3i)(3+4i)}{(6+4i)(16-8i)}##

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The discussion revolves around finding the modulus of the complex fraction \(\dfrac{(2-3i)(3+4i)}{(6+4i)(16-8i)}\). Participants are analyzing their calculations and comparing them to a textbook answer.

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  • Participants present their calculations for the modulus, questioning the correctness of their results in relation to the textbook answer. There are discussions about the cancellation of terms and the validity of different methods for calculating the modulus.

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Some participants have provided alternative methods for calculating the modulus, noting similarities in results. There is ongoing questioning about the accuracy of the textbook answer and the calculations presented by others, with no explicit consensus reached.

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Homework Statement
Find the modulus of ##\dfrac{(2-3i)(3+4i)}{(6+4i)(16-8i)}##
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In my working i have,

##\dfrac{\sqrt 13\sqrt 25}{\sqrt 52\sqrt 320}=\dfrac{\sqrt 13⋅5}{\sqrt 52⋅8\sqrt 5}=\dfrac{\sqrt 1⋅5⋅\sqrt 5}{\sqrt 4⋅\sqrt 5⋅8\sqrt 5}=\dfrac{1⋅\sqrt 5}{2⋅8}=\dfrac{\sqrt 5}{16}##

The textbook says otherwise... textbook answer ##\dfrac{5}{34}##.
 
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Their answer is wrong, but that doesn't mean yours is ok. What happened to ##\sqrt{13}##?
 
chwala said:
##\dfrac{\sqrt 13\sqrt 25}{\sqrt 52\sqrt 320}=\dfrac{\sqrt 13⋅5}{\sqrt 52⋅8\sqrt 5}=\dfrac{\sqrt 1⋅5⋅\sqrt 5}{\sqrt 4⋅\sqrt 5⋅8\sqrt 5}=\dfrac{1⋅\sqrt 5}{2⋅8}=\dfrac{\sqrt 5}{16}##
Okay.
 
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martinbn said:
Their answer is wrong, but that doesn't mean yours is ok. What happened to ##\sqrt{13}##?
@martinbn ... just check my working again. Cheers man.
 
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martinbn said:
What happened to ##\sqrt{13}##?
It cancelled with the factor in the denominator since 52 = (4)(13).
##\frac {\sqrt{13}}{\sqrt{52}} = \frac 1 2##
 
chwala said:
The textbook says otherwise
Is the problem you posted exactly the same as the one in the textbook?
 
Mark44 said:
Is the problem you posted exactly the same as the one in the textbook?
Yes @Mark44
 
chwala said:
Find the modulus of ##\dfrac{(2-3i)(3+4i)}{(6+4i)(16-8i)}##
Since you're often interested in different approaches, here's another way to go:
Multiply the pairs of complex numbers in the numerator and the denominator to get ##\frac{18 - i}{128 + 16i} = \frac{18 - i}{16(8 + i)}##.
Now take the modulus (or magnitude) of the numerator and denominator to get ##\frac{\sqrt 5}{16}##, the same as you got using your method.
In terms of ease of calculation, I like your way better, but doing things a different way and getting the same result is more evidence that the textbook answer is incorrect.
 
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Mark44 said:
Since you're often interested in different approaches, here's another way to go:
Split the given expression into the product of two complex fractions.

Noting that ##\displaystyle \left | 6+4i \right | =2 \left | 3+2i \right | ## and that ##\displaystyle \left | 3+2i \right | =\left | 2-3i \right | ## ,

you have ##\displaystyle \left | \dfrac {2-3i}{6+4i} \right | = \dfrac 1 2 ##

The other fraction:
Factor out 8 from the denominator: ##\displaystyle 16-8i =8 \left ( 2-i \right ) ##

Familiarity with the ##3,\,4,\,5\,## right triangle gives ##\displaystyle \left | 3+4i \right | =5##.

Finally, calculation gives: ##\displaystyle \left | 2-i \right | = \sqrt {5\,} ## .

Put this all together to get:

##\displaystyle \quad \quad \left | \dfrac {(2-3i)(3+4i)}{(6+4i)(16-8i)} \right | = \dfrac 1 2 \cdot \dfrac { 5}{ 8\,\sqrt{5\,}} = \dfrac { \sqrt{5\,}}{ 16} ##
 
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