Calculating Outside Temperature Using Exponential Decay Model

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The discussion focuses on calculating the outside temperature using the exponential decay model based on the cooling of boiling water. The temperature of the water at one minute is 152°F and at two minutes is 112°F. The formula used is T(t)=Ta+(To-Ta)e^(-kt), where Ta is the outside temperature and To is the initial temperature of the water (212°F). The correct approach involves substituting the ratio of temperatures into the equation to eliminate the variable k and solve for Ta, resulting in the accurate outside temperature.

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Homework Statement


A cup of boiling water is placed outside at 1:00 PM. One minute later the temperature of the water is 152 degrees Fahrenheit. After another minute its temperature is 112 degrees Fahrenheit. Find the outside temperature.

Homework Equations


None.

The Attempt at a Solution


T(t)=Ta+(To-Ta)e^(-kt)
T(t)=Ta+(212-Ta)e^(-kt)
T(1)=152=Ta+(212-Ta)e^(-k)
T(2)=112=Ta+(212-Ta)e^(-2k)
152-Ta=(212-Ta)e^(-k)
112-Ta=(212-Ta)e^(-2k)
112/152=e^(-k)
e^k=152/112
k=ln(19/14)
Now I'm stuck. What do I do?
 
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Math10 said:

Homework Statement


A cup of boiling water is placed outside at 1:00 PM. One minute later the temperature of the water is 152 degrees Fahrenheit. After another minute its temperature is 112 degrees Fahrenheit. Find the outside temperature.

The Attempt at a Solution


T(t)=Ta+(To-Ta)e^(-kt)
T(t)=Ta+(212-Ta)e^(-kt)
T(1)=152=Ta+(212-Ta)e^(-k)
T(2)=112=Ta+(212-Ta)e^(-2k)
152-Ta=(212-Ta)e^(-k)
112-Ta=(212-Ta)e^(-2k)
112/152=e^(-k)
That is wrong. Correctly: ##\frac{112-T_a}{152-T_a}=e^{-k}##
Substituting the exponent into the first equations eliminates the unknown k:

##152-Ta=(212-Ta)\frac{112-T_a}{152-T_a}##

Solve for Ta.
 
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