Find the position of equlibrium

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The discussion focuses on determining the position of equilibrium for a system involving a man at distance ##x## from one end of a total length ##L##. The key equations utilized include torque and force balance equations: ##\sum M=T*L-mg\frac{L}{2}-Mg(L-x)=0## and ##\sum F=T+F-(m+M)g=0##. Participants emphasize the importance of selecting an appropriate reference point for torque calculations and suggest reevaluating the force equation for the lower pulley to eliminate unknowns. The conversation highlights the complexity of balancing multiple forces acting on the system.

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From the diagram below find the position of the man (##x##) if the system is in balance. Total length is ##L## and the man is distance ##x## from one end.

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I know that the system must be in balance if all the torque and all the forces equate to zero. That said i tried this:
The left tension force i name ##T_1## and the right ##T_2##. And i take the right point as reference point.
##\sum M=T*L-mg\frac{L}{2}-Mg(L-x)=0##
##\sum F=T+F-(m+M)g=0##
These equation i know but still cnat express ##x## as i have too many unknowns. Could i eliminate something here?
 

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Hint: Look at the force equation for the lower pulley and pick a smart reference point for your torque computation.
 
Orodruin said:
Hint: Look at the force equation for the lower pulley and pick a smart reference point for your torque computation.
That force should equal the tension on the right, right? I picked a reference point to the right so it an be lost. Can you provide another hunt so i can see what you mean?
 
I think there is something wrong with your sum of forces equation.
 
doktorwho said:
That force should equal the tension on the right, right?
Which force? There are three forces acting on that pulley.
 

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