Find the power series for representatino for the function

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The discussion revolves around finding the power series representation for the function f(x) = x/(9+x^2) and specifically focuses on testing the edges of the interval of convergence. Participants are exploring the challenges associated with convergence at the boundaries of the interval.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the process of finding the power series and the subsequent need to test the edges of the interval of convergence. There are attempts to express terms in the series as powers of 9 and to apply convergence tests, with some questioning the necessity of specific tests for divergence.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and reasoning regarding convergence tests. Some guidance has been offered about differentiating or integrating simpler power series, and there is acknowledgment of the need for formal testing methods as per homework requirements.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention constraints imposed by homework rules, specifically the requirement to use formal tests for convergence rather than relying solely on the examination of series terms.

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Homework Statement



Ive been able to do every single problem in my homework to the point where I have to test the edges of the interval of convergence. I have not been able to figure out a single one of the problems at the point of testing the edge of convergence, and I am to the point of pulling my hair out, so I really need an explanation of what to do at that point. Ill give an example of a problem.find the power series for representation for the function

f(x) = x/(9+x^2)

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f(x) = x/(9+x2)

f(x) = x/(9 -(-x2)

f(x) = x/9(1-(-x2/9)

(∞, n=0) (x/9)∑ (-1)n [(x2)/(9)] n

(∞, n=0) ∑ (-1)n (x2n+1)/ (9n+1)

then i do a quicktest to find the radius of convergence

lim n--> ∞ |cn/cn+1|

lim n--> ∞ |[(-1)n/(9n+1)] * [(9n+2)/(-1)n+1] = 9

|x2| < |9|

-3 <x < 3

this is where i start to feel bad, i know the radius of convergence is 3 and the interval of convergence is (-3,3), but I have to test the edges of convergence, and I can't seem to do it. I know i should plug -3 and 3 back into the power series and test for convergence, but i have no idea how to test these two series for convergence

(∞, n=0) ∑ (-1)n ((-3)2n+1)/ (9n+1)

(∞, n=0) ∑ (-1)n ((3)2n+1)/ (9n+1)
 
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What are 3^(2n) and (-3)^(2n) expressed as powers of 9?
 
Dick said:
What are 3^(2n) and (-3)^(2n) expressed as powers of 9?

9^n and 9^n(∞, n=0) ∑ (-1)n ((9)n+1/2)/ (9n+1)

which diverges by alternating series test because bn+1< bn and limit runs to 0, right?

so interval of convergence is (-3,3)
 
vande060 said:
9^n and 9^n(∞, n=0) ∑ (-1)n ((9)n+1/2)/ (9n+1)

which diverges by alternating series test because bn+1< bn and limit runs to 0, right?

so interval of convergence is (-3,3)

Why don't you explicitly write out the first three or four terms in each series and then think about that again? You don't need an alternating series test to conclude that they diverge.
 
Dick said:
Why don't you explicitly write out the first three or four terms in each series and then think about that again? You don't need an alternating series test to conclude that they diverge.

unfortunately I do :( Professor said that writing out the first few terms of a series is not enough to draw conclusions. We have to use a test, and cite what test we used, for every problem. I get where you are coming from though, and thanks for the help, I cracked out a few more problems on my homework after working through this one :D
 
Don't forget that for some problems you can differentiate or integrate the power series of a simpler function.
 
vande060 said:
unfortunately I do :( Professor said that writing out the first few terms of a series is not enough to draw conclusions. We have to use a test, and cite what test we used, for every problem. I get where you are coming from though, and thanks for the help, I cracked out a few more problems on my homework after working through this one :D

My suggestion to write out a few terms isn't meant to be a proof. It's meant to help you get an idea of what kind of series you are dealing with. Then you prove it.
 

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