Find the Rotational Inertia of a Square Rigid Body

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The problem involves calculating the rotational inertia of a square rigid body formed by four identical particles positioned at the vertices of a square. The discussion focuses on three different axes of rotation: one in the plane of the square and passing through midpoints of opposite sides, one perpendicular to the plane, and one in the plane passing through diagonally opposite particles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants express confusion regarding the wording of the problem and seek hints for approaching the calculations. Some suggest using the moment of inertia formula for point masses and discuss the relevance of the center of mass in their calculations.

Discussion Status

There are multiple lines of reasoning being explored, with participants offering different approaches to calculating the rotational inertia. Some guidance has been provided regarding drawing the setup and identifying the distances relevant to each axis of rotation.

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Participants mention challenges in visualizing the setup and determining the distances from the rotation axes to the particles, which may affect their calculations. There is also a reference to homework constraints that may influence how the problem is approached.

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Homework Statement



Four identical particles of mass 0.717 kg each are placed at the vertices of a 3.11 m x 3.11 m square and held there by four massless rods, which form the sides of the square. What is the rotational inertia of this rigid body about an axis that (a) passes through the midpoints of opposite sides and lies in the plane of the square, (b) passes through the midpoint of one of the sides and is perpendicular to the plane of the square, and (c) lies in the plane of the square and passes through two diagonally opposite particles?

Homework Equations



I think I = 1/12M(a^2 + b^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't really know how to go about solving this, the way its worded is confusing me.
 
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Anyone can give me a hint or something on how to do this?
 
VitaX said:

Homework Equations



I think I = 1/12M(a^2 + b^2)
That doesn't look right.

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't really know how to go about solving this, the way its worded is confusing me.
Look up the moment of inertia for a point mass (particle) that is a distance r from the rotation axis.
 
I = mr^2

I thought I had to use I = Icom + Mh^2

The hard part for me is drawing these out and finding what r would be each part.
 
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VitaX said:
I = mr^2

I thought I had to use I = Icom + Mh^2
You could use Icom + Mh2, but for a few point masses it's probably easiest to calculate ∑mr2 directly.

The hard part for me is drawing these out and finding what r would be each part.
I would start by simply drawing a square first. Then figure out where the axis is in relation to the square.

If the axis is perpendicular to the plane of the square, you can just draw a dot or "x" in the figure showing where it passes through the plane.
 
Redbelly98 said:
You could use Icom + Mh2, but for a few point masses it's probably easiest to calculate ∑mr2 directly.I would start by simply drawing a square first. Then figure out where the axis is in relation to the square.

If the axis is perpendicular to the plane of the square, you can just draw a dot or "x" in the figure showing where it passes through the plane.

I understand that part a is just I=4M(L/2)^2

Part b is giving me trouble but I think it is I = 2M(L/2)^2 + 2M(sqroot((L/2)^2 + L^2))^2

Part c is 2M(sqroot((L/2)^2 + (L/2)^2))^2 which goes down to ML^2 which is same as part a
 

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