Moment of inertia rigid body problem

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia (MoI) for a rigid body shaped like an "H," composed of three identical thin rods. Participants explore the application of the parallel axis theorem to determine the MoI of each rod relative to the rotation axis. The correct MoI is established as 4/3mL^2, accounting for the contributions from the two vertical rods and the horizontal rod. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the specific conditions under which different MoI formulas apply. Ultimately, the participant successfully calculates the angular speed of the body when it falls to a vertical position.
  • #31
i_hate_math said:
0 for this rod, and the total would be 1/3mL^2 by itself?
We are not quite ready to go back to considering the rod. I am still asking about the point particle.

Edit: cancel that, see below.
 
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  • #32
i_hate_math said:
0 for this rod
Yes, the moment of inertia of a thin rod about itself as axis is 0.
Now use the parallel axis theorem to find its moment of inertia about the rod parallel to it in the H figure.
 
  • #33
haruspex said:
Yes, the moment of inertia of a thin rod about itself as axis is 0.
Now use the parallel axis theorem to find its moment of inertia about the rod parallel to it in the H figure.
The parallel axis thrm states that I=Icom+mh^2
here it's I=0+mL^2=mL^2
 
  • #34
i_hate_math said:
The parallel axis thrm states that I=Icom+mh^2
here it's I=0+mL^2=mL^2
Yes!
Do you see why this is? Every point of the rod is at distance L from the axis, so each little mass dm contributes L2.dm to the total.
 
  • #35
haruspex said:
Yes!
Do you see why this is? Every point of the rod is at distance L from the axis, so each little mass dm contributes L2.dm to the total.
Yeah because its a rigid body of many particles. And adding them up, I-total=1/3mL^2+0+mL^2=4/3mL^2
 
  • #36
i_hate_math said:
Yeah because its a rigid body of many particles. And adding them up, I-total=1/3mL^2+0+mL^2=4/3mL^2
In post #33 you came to understand that the moment of inertia of a rod about an axis parallel to it, distance L away, is mL2. Why have you gone back to 1/3mL^2+mL^2?
 
  • #37
because I think the other rod that's perpendicular to the rotation axis also needs to be taken into account for the total MoI
 
  • #38
i_hate_math said:
because I think the other rod that's perpendicular to the rotation axis also needs to be taken into account for the total MoI
Oh, ok, I didn't realize you were including that yet. In that case, yes, that is indeed the total MoI of the H shape about the given axis.
 
  • #39
haruspex said:
Oh, ok, I didn't realize you were including that yet. In that case, yes, that is indeed the total MoI of the H shape about the given axis.
Thanks a lot mate for all the help and detailed explanations. I got the correct answer 6.45 eventually!
 

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