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We are not quite ready to go back to considering the rod. I am still asking about the point particle.i_hate_math said:0 for this rod, and the total would be 1/3mL^2 by itself?
Edit: cancel that, see below.
The problem involves determining the moment of inertia of a rigid body composed of three identical thin rods arranged in the shape of an 'H'. The body rotates about a horizontal axis along one of the legs of the 'H' as it falls from a horizontal position to a vertical position. The challenge lies in calculating the moment of inertia for this specific configuration to apply conservation of energy principles.
Participants are actively exploring the moment of inertia calculations, with some providing insights into the application of the parallel axis theorem. There is ongoing clarification regarding the correct formulas and the contributions of each rod to the overall moment of inertia.
Some participants express uncertainty about the correct formulas for the moment of inertia and the conditions under which they apply. There is also a discussion about the implications of treating the rods as thin and the assumptions made in the problem setup.
We are not quite ready to go back to considering the rod. I am still asking about the point particle.i_hate_math said:0 for this rod, and the total would be 1/3mL^2 by itself?
Yes, the moment of inertia of a thin rod about itself as axis is 0.i_hate_math said:0 for this rod
The parallel axis thrm states that I=Icom+mh^2haruspex said:Yes, the moment of inertia of a thin rod about itself as axis is 0.
Now use the parallel axis theorem to find its moment of inertia about the rod parallel to it in the H figure.
Yes!i_hate_math said:The parallel axis thrm states that I=Icom+mh^2
here it's I=0+mL^2=mL^2
Yeah because its a rigid body of many particles. And adding them up, I-total=1/3mL^2+0+mL^2=4/3mL^2haruspex said:Yes!
Do you see why this is? Every point of the rod is at distance L from the axis, so each little mass dm contributes L2.dm to the total.
In post #33 you came to understand that the moment of inertia of a rod about an axis parallel to it, distance L away, is mL2. Why have you gone back to 1/3mL^2+mL^2?i_hate_math said:Yeah because its a rigid body of many particles. And adding them up, I-total=1/3mL^2+0+mL^2=4/3mL^2
Oh, ok, I didn't realize you were including that yet. In that case, yes, that is indeed the total MoI of the H shape about the given axis.i_hate_math said:because I think the other rod that's perpendicular to the rotation axis also needs to be taken into account for the total MoI
Thanks a lot mate for all the help and detailed explanations. I got the correct answer 6.45 eventually!haruspex said:Oh, ok, I didn't realize you were including that yet. In that case, yes, that is indeed the total MoI of the H shape about the given axis.