Moment of inertia rigid body problem

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia (MoI) for a rigid body shaped like the letter H, constructed from three identical thin rods, each measuring 0.530 m in length. The body rotates about a horizontal axis along one leg of the H. Participants clarify that the MoI for the outer rods is calculated using the formula I = (1/3)mL² + mL², while the inner perpendicular rod's contribution is determined using the parallel axis theorem, resulting in a total MoI of 4/3mL². The final angular speed when the H shape is vertical is confirmed to be 6.45 rad/s.

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  • #31
i_hate_math said:
0 for this rod, and the total would be 1/3mL^2 by itself?
We are not quite ready to go back to considering the rod. I am still asking about the point particle.

Edit: cancel that, see below.
 
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  • #32
i_hate_math said:
0 for this rod
Yes, the moment of inertia of a thin rod about itself as axis is 0.
Now use the parallel axis theorem to find its moment of inertia about the rod parallel to it in the H figure.
 
  • #33
haruspex said:
Yes, the moment of inertia of a thin rod about itself as axis is 0.
Now use the parallel axis theorem to find its moment of inertia about the rod parallel to it in the H figure.
The parallel axis thrm states that I=Icom+mh^2
here it's I=0+mL^2=mL^2
 
  • #34
i_hate_math said:
The parallel axis thrm states that I=Icom+mh^2
here it's I=0+mL^2=mL^2
Yes!
Do you see why this is? Every point of the rod is at distance L from the axis, so each little mass dm contributes L2.dm to the total.
 
  • #35
haruspex said:
Yes!
Do you see why this is? Every point of the rod is at distance L from the axis, so each little mass dm contributes L2.dm to the total.
Yeah because its a rigid body of many particles. And adding them up, I-total=1/3mL^2+0+mL^2=4/3mL^2
 
  • #36
i_hate_math said:
Yeah because its a rigid body of many particles. And adding them up, I-total=1/3mL^2+0+mL^2=4/3mL^2
In post #33 you came to understand that the moment of inertia of a rod about an axis parallel to it, distance L away, is mL2. Why have you gone back to 1/3mL^2+mL^2?
 
  • #37
because I think the other rod that's perpendicular to the rotation axis also needs to be taken into account for the total MoI
 
  • #38
i_hate_math said:
because I think the other rod that's perpendicular to the rotation axis also needs to be taken into account for the total MoI
Oh, ok, I didn't realize you were including that yet. In that case, yes, that is indeed the total MoI of the H shape about the given axis.
 
  • #39
haruspex said:
Oh, ok, I didn't realize you were including that yet. In that case, yes, that is indeed the total MoI of the H shape about the given axis.
Thanks a lot mate for all the help and detailed explanations. I got the correct answer 6.45 eventually!
 

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