Find the solutions of the system, for all λ

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of linear equations involving a parameter λ. The equations are presented in augmented matrix form after Gaussian elimination, and participants are exploring the implications of different values of λ on the solution set.

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  • Participants discuss the results of Gaussian elimination and question the correctness of the initial equations and the resulting augmented matrix. There are attempts to clarify the notation and the structure of the equations, particularly regarding the presence of the variable z.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants correcting each other's interpretations of the equations and the results of their calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of specific values of λ on the solution set, but there is no explicit consensus on the final form of the system or its solutions.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the original system of equations, with corrections being made to the equations presented in earlier posts. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to ensure clarity and accuracy in the problem setup.

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(∀λ∃ℝ)

-x + y - z = 1
-2x + 10y + (2λ + 6) = 6
3x + 11y + (λ2+6)z = 5λ - 1

after gaussian elimination I have this:

-1 4 -2 | 1
0 1 λ | 2
0 0 λ(λ-1) | 5λ

So, for λ=0 ⇒ ∞ solutions, for λ=1 system is impossible and for λ≠0 and λ≠1 only one solution.

Am I right?
 
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Michael_0039 said:
∈(∀λ∃ℝ)
∃ means "there exists". The symbol you want is ∈.
Michael_0039 said:
-x + y - z = 1
-2x + 10y + (2λ + 6) = 6
3x + 11y + (λ2+6)z = 5λ - 1
In the 2nd equation is there supposed to be a z on the left side?
Michael_0039 said:
after gaussian elimination I have this:

-1 4 -2 | 1
0 1 λ | 2
0 0 λ(λ-1) | 5λ

So, for λ=0 ⇒ ∞ solutions, for λ=1 system is impossible and for λ≠0 and λ≠1 only one solution.

Am I right?
I'm not getting the final augmented matrix you show, but then I'm not sure what the starting system is.
 
Mark44 said:
∃ means "there exists". The symbol you want is ∈.
In the 2nd equation is there supposed to be a z on the left side?
I'm not getting the final augmented matrix you show, but then I'm not sure what the starting system is.
Yes, my mistake I mean "∈" and also for the 2nd equation I forgot the z, you are right.
The final augnebted matrix it came after calculations between rows, as shown bellow:

1) R2 → R2 - 2R1
2) R3 → R3 + 3R1
3) R3 → R3 - R2
 
Michael_0039 said:
1) R2 → R2 - 2R1
2) R3 → R3 + 3R1
3) R3 → R3 - R2
After the first two row operations above, I get this augmented matrix:
##\begin{bmatrix}-1 & 1 & -1 & | & 1 \\ 0 & 8 & 2\lambda + 8 & | & 4 \\
0 & 14 & \lambda^2 + 3 & | & 5\lambda - 4 \end{bmatrix}##
I don't see how your third row operation is useful, as it doesn't eliminate the leading entry of row 3.
Also, none of your three row operations modified row 1, so I don't see how you ended up with an augmented matrix whose first row was [-1 4 -2 | 1].
 
Mark44 said:
After the first two row operations above, I get this augmented matrix:
##\begin{bmatrix}-1 & 1 & -1 & | & 1 \\ 0 & 8 & 2\lambda + 8 & | & 4 \\
0 & 14 & \lambda^2 + 3 & | & 5\lambda - 4 \end{bmatrix}##
I don't see how your third row operation is useful, as it doesn't eliminate the leading entry of row 3.
Also, none of your three row operations modified row 1, so I don't see how you ended up with an augmented matrix whose first row was [-1 4 -2 | 1].
I am very sorry, I was careless on this post. Correction: -x + 4y - 2z = 1
-2x + 10y + (2λ - 4)z = 6
3x - 11y + (λ2+6)z = 5λ - 1
 
Michael_0039 said:
I am very sorry, I was careless on this post. Correction:

-x + 4y - 2z = 1
-2x + 10y + (2λ - 4)z = 6
3x - 11y + (λ2+6)z = 5λ - 1
Is the system above the correct one? The original system of post #1, copied below, was quite different.

Michael_0039 said:
-x + y - z = 1
-2x + 10y + (2λ + 6) = 6
3x + 11y + (λ2+6)z = 5λ - 1
 
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Mark44 said:
Is the system above the correct one? The original system of post #1, copied below, was quite different.
Yes, my apologies.
 
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Michael_0039 said:
-x + 4y - 2z = 1
-2x + 10y + (2λ - 4)z = 6
3x - 11y + (λ2+6)z = 5λ - 1
Post #1:
Michael_0039 said:
after gaussian elimination I have this:

-1 4 -2 | 1
0 1 λ | 2
0 0 λ(λ-1) | 5λ

So, for λ=0 ⇒ ∞ solutions, for λ=1 system is impossible and for λ≠0 and λ≠1 only one solution.
With the corrected system shown in post #5, I agree with the solution you posted in the OP.

Geometrically, if ##\lambda = 0## you have two planes that intersect in a line, thus there are an infinite number of solutions. If ##\lambda = 1##, you have an inconsistent system, thus no solutions. In that case, the third equation becomes ##0z = 5##, which can't happen.
 
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