Find the Speed of a Car Approaching at 190mph: Optimization Problem

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The discussion revolves around an optimization problem involving a helicopter and an approaching car. The helicopter is flying at a constant altitude while determining the speed of the car approaching at a specified rate. Participants are exploring the relationships between the distances and speeds of the two vehicles.

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  • Participants are attempting to apply calculus to relate the distances and speeds of the helicopter and car. There are questions about the correctness of the equations used and the interpretation of terms in the context of the problem. Some participants suggest that calculus may not be necessary and propose considering the components of the speeds instead.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different interpretations of the equations and questioning the validity of certain terms. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

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There are indications that participants are grappling with the setup of the problem and the relationships between the variables involved, particularly regarding the helicopter's altitude and the car's distance from it. The problem constraints and the need for clarity in the equations are also under discussion.

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A police is flying at 150 mph at a constant altitude of .5 miles above a straight rode. The pilot uses radar to determine that an oncoming car is at a distance of exactly one mile from the helicopter, and that this distance is decreasing at 190 mph. Determine the speed of the car.

This is a problem I have tried numerous times but keep coming up with different solutions, any help would be greatly appreciated.

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let y = the helicopter's altitude
let x = car's distance to directly below the helicopter.
let h = the distance in miles between the helicopter and the car
let dh/dt = 190 miles/hour
150 miles/hour + dx/dt = horizontal component of car and helicopter.
then dx/dt is what we're looking for - the car's speed with respect to the ground.

y² + x² = h²

d(y²)/dt + d(x²)/dt = d(h²)/dt

dy/dt d(.5)²/dt + 150 + 2x dx/dt = d(1²)/dt 190 miles/hour = 0

2x dx/dt = 0 - 150 = -150miles/hour

x = √(1² - (.5)²) = √3/2

2(√3/2) dx/dt = -150 m/h

dx/dt = -150/√3 miles/hour

dx/dt = -86.60254 miles/hour
 
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quatrarot said:
d(y²)/dt + d(x²)/dt = d(h²)/dt

dy/dt d(.5)²/dt + 150 + 2x dx/dt = d(1²)/dt 190 miles/hour = 0
The first equation is fine, but the second makes no sense. The 2x dx/dt term is fine... why aren't the other terms similar?
Btw, you don't actually need calculus for this problem. Just consider the components of the two speeds along the line connecting the vehicles.
 
Okay: Then I get something like

2x*dx/dt = 190 mph

where does 150mph fit into this and is dx/dt the speed of the car?
 
quatrarot said:
Okay: Then I get something like
2x*dx/dt = 190 mph
Not quite. You have 2y dy/dt + 2x dx/dt + 2 h dh/dt, right? So the 2's should all cancel.
Remember that x is the distance from the car to immediately below the helicopter at any given time t. This is affected by the helicopter's movement.
 

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