Find the speed of an electron accelerated through a potential difference

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The problem involves calculating the speed of electrons accelerated through a potential difference of 20,000 volts in a color television tube. The context includes the mass of the electron and considerations of kinetic and rest energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the appropriate formula to use, with one suggesting the use of relativistic energy equations while another points out potential arithmetic errors. There are questions about the conversion of energy units from eV to MeV and the implications of kinetic energy relative to rest energy.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on unit conversions and the implications of using non-relativistic mechanics. There is recognition of errors in the original poster's calculations, particularly regarding energy units, but no consensus has been reached on a final approach.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the conversion of kinetic energy from eV to MeV, with participants emphasizing the importance of accurate unit conversion in the calculations. The kinetic energy is significantly smaller than the rest energy, which influences the choice of methods for solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


In a color television tube, electrons are accelerated through a potential difference of 20 000 volts. With what speed do the electrons strike the screen?
mass of electron=9.109*10^-31kg or 0.51099 MeV/c^2


Homework Equations


I don't know which formula I have to use. When I use E=mc^2/sqrt(1-v^2/c^2) I first have to add the kinetic energy (20 000eV) and the rest energy of the electron (0.51099MeV) and than solve for x (which is v^2/c^2). The solution should be 0.27c but I never get it...Thank you!
 
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You have the right formula. Can you show your math? It sounds like there is a simple arithmetic error somewhere.

p.s. if instead you use the nonrelativistic expression for kinetic energy, the answer will not be very different.
 
Ok. For E I use 20 000.51099MeV (KE+rest energy)
For mc^2 I use 0.51099MeV and for v^2/c^2 I use x because that's the thing I want to know. Then I put everything into the solver like this: solve(20000.51099=0.51099/sqrt(1-x^2),x) and my calculator says x is -1 or 1 (exact nr.: 0.99999999967363) I really don't know why I always get the wrong result...
 
Okay. The kinetic energy is
KE = 20 000 eV 20 000 MeV​
 
Thank you. But it doesn't change nothing when I use 20 000*10^6 eV + 0.51099MeV...Heeelp :S
 
I think you need to double-check your conversion of 20,000 eV to MeV. 1,000,000 eV = 1 MeV
 
The rest energy is .511MeV = 511,000eV

The kinetic is 20,000eV

You see how the kinetic energy is not larger than the rest energy? It is in fact smaller by about 25 times. This is why Redbelly said you can use non-relativistic mechanics because the kinetic energy is only a small fraction of the rest energy.

The way you have it now, your kinetic energy is 40,000 times larger than your rest energy...which is why you get an answer ridiculously close to c.
 
Miri said:
Thank you. But it doesn't change nothing when I use 20 000*10^6 eV + 0.51099MeV...Heeelp :S

And it shouldn't change, because you are just repeating the same mistake.

20 000 eV is not, I repeat not, 20 000*106 eV.

To do the units conversion from eV to MeV:

20000 eV * (1 MeV/10^6 eV) = ____ ?
 
oh yes..thank you very much..I forgot the minus: 20000*10^-6 eV=0.02MeV...Thank you for your patience :)
 

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