Find the spring constant 'k' by using the slope of my graph

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on determining the spring constant 'k' using the slope of two different graphs: displacement vs. mass and period squared vs. mass. The user initially calculates 'k' using the formula k = g/slope, where g is 980 cm/s², resulting in an unexpectedly high value. The correct unit for the spring constant is confirmed to be N/m, and the user is advised to ensure consistent units across both graphs to accurately compare the spring constants derived from each graph.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Hooke's Law and spring constants
  • Familiarity with graphing techniques and slope calculations
  • Knowledge of unit conversions, particularly between cm, g, and N
  • Basic principles of potential energy in springs
NEXT STEPS
  • Learn about unit conversions between N/m and other units of force and displacement
  • Study the relationship between slope and spring constant in graphical analysis
  • Explore error analysis techniques for slope determination in experimental physics
  • Investigate the implications of using different units in physical equations
USEFUL FOR

Students in physics, particularly those working on experiments involving springs and oscillations, as well as educators teaching concepts related to spring constants and unit conversions.

physicsnewby
Messages
33
Reaction score
0
units ??

Homework Statement



This should be straightforward but I'm not sure what to do. If I make a graph and the Y axis is in cm, and the X is in g, does cm/g make sense?

I'm trying to find the spring constant 'k' by using the slope of my graph. When I do this I get a huge number so I'm playing with units to bring it down.


Homework Equations


k = g/slope (g = 980 cm/s^2)


The Attempt at a Solution


using the info. gathered my k = (980 cm/s^2) / 0.073 = 13520.55
this sounds extremely high. My slope units are what's throwing me I think. Does 0.073 cm/g make sense? Then, would the units be 13520.55 g/s^2 ?

I believe k is supposed to be in N m, so I'm not sure this is right ?!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
The spring constant is in units of force per unit displacement, N/cm. I don't know what you're plotting, but it sounds like you haven't done it right.

You should give us the entire problem, exactly as it was given to you, and we can help you with it.

- Warren
 
No the spring constant is N/m

just check it:

Potential energy stored in a compressed spring = (1/2)*k*x^2 ; where k is the spring constant and x is the compression in meters.

[J]=k[m^2]
k=[J/m^2]=[Nm/m^2]=[N/m]
 
I'm actually plotting two graphs and comparing the k values.

The first graph is measuring displacement vs mass. So, in my case its cm vs grams.

The second is measuring period squared (T^2) vs mass. In my case, its seconds^squared vs grams.

I draw line of best fit and determine the slope. From here, K is determined using one of two equations. The first graph is k=g/slope, the second graph 4pi^2/slope.

Drawing Max/Min lines for determining slope error, I get the error for slope. Maybe this is where I go wrong.

I need to do the math for discrepancy which is the difference between the k values, divided by the square root of the sum of the squares of their errors (I used slope error here - giving me a value around +/- 0.003)

My question about units comes here. Because my k is huge (14000) and (15000) for example, when I do the discrepancy equation I get a ridiculous answer like 333333.33 when the answer should be close to 2.

I thought units may be the problem for such a large value, but I'm not sure. The K's I'm comparing will both have different values (graph 1: cm/g, graph 2: s^2/g) so how do I make them the same to compare?
 
Got it! :smile:
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
1K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
Replies
29
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K
Replies
7
Views
1K