Find the time for the string to break

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The discussion revolves around a dynamics problem involving the time it takes for a lanyard's string to break when swung in a circular motion. The original poster is analyzing the effects of torque, mass, and angular acceleration on the breaking point of the string, with specific parameters provided for the scenario.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate angular velocity and acceleration based on given torque and mass, while also questioning the realism of their torque value. Participants discuss the implications of the calculated values and their physical significance.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, suggesting that the torque value may be large for the scenario described. There is an ongoing exploration of the number of revolutions calculated and whether it aligns with realistic expectations.

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Participants are considering the assumptions made regarding torque and the nature of the forces involved. There is uncertainty about the appropriateness of the chosen torque value and its impact on the results.

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Hi all!

I am currently working on an assignment for my dynamics course in which we need to create our own "real world" problems. I chose to do a problem which would solve the time at which the string of a lanyard would break when it is swung in a circle. My problem is with my end numbers. They seem very unreasonable but I am not sure if it is due to a calculation error, a dynamics error, or if it is simply the nature of the problem. I estimated the mass of the keys. The maximum load is from this website: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/polyester-rope-strength-d_1514.html
The torque of the motor is an arbitrary number that I chose.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

1. Homework Statement


A motor is set up to spin a lanyard from rest with keys attached with a torque of 5 Nm. The polyester lanyard is 50 centimeters long with a diameter of 6 mm, assume it is massless. The keys have a mass m = 100 grams. The maximum load of polyester rope is Tmax = 3400 N. At what time will the rod break and after how many revolutions? Gravity acts in the -j direction. Neglect bending stresses and air resistance.

Schematic: http://imgur.com/V6mSuuD
FBD/KD: http://imgur.com/AQShsEv

Homework Equations



F=ma
w = w0 + at

The Attempt at a Solution



Find Angular Velocity[/B]
Sum forces in the y-direction and solve for w

Tmax – mg = mrw2
w = 260.7 rad/s

Find Angular Acceleration
Sum moments about the origin

M = (mra) * (r)
a=M/mr^2

a = 200 rad/s2

Use kinematics to find the time to break

w = w0 + at

260.7 rad/s = 200 rad/s2 * t

t = 1.3 s
 
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Welcome to PF!

I think your calculation is OK. It just shows that 5 Nm is a "large" torque in this situation.

If you thought of the torque as due to a force F applied tangentially to the circular motion of the keys, then F would be 10 N. That might not sound like much, but that force would give the keys an acceleration of F/m = 100 m/s2. Thus, starting from rest, this acceleration would cause the keys to travel 200 meters in 2 seconds.

Did you calculate the number of revolutions of the lanyard in 1.3 s?
 
Thanks for the feedback! I was confused on what to set the torque at for it to be more realistic but I don't know what would work.

I think it gives 53.96 revolutions. Which is a ton in 1.3 seconds!
 
TheSwedeAtLarge said:
Thanks for the feedback! I was confused on what to set the torque at for it to be more realistic but I don't know what would work.

I think it gives 53.96 revolutions. Which is a ton in 1.3 seconds!
I think it's about half that number of revolutions. Still a lot.
 

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