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The discussion revolves around solving a trigonometric equation involving sine functions and determining the parameters a, b, and c. The correct value for b is established as b = 1/8, contradicting an initial claim of b = 8. The participants clarify that the period of the sine function is 16π, which necessitates that the coefficient of x must be less than 1. The final values derived for a and c are a = 4 and c = 7, respectively, after correcting earlier miscalculations.

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Homework Statement
See attached.
Relevant Equations
trigonometry
This is the question...

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My attempt on part (i),
##b=\dfrac {16π}{2π}=8##
##11=a sin 32π+c##
##c=11##
##5=-a\frac {\sqrt 3}{2} +11##
##10=-a\sqrt 3+22##
##12=a\sqrt 3##
##a=\dfrac {12}{\sqrt 3}##

Is this correct? Thanks...
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: See attached.
Relevant Equations:: trigonometry

This is the question...

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My attempt on part (i),
##b##=##\dfrac {16π}{2π}##=##8##
##11=a sin 32π+c##
##c=11##
##5##=##-a####\frac {\sqrt 3}{2}## +##11##
##10##=##-a####\sqrt 3##+##22##
##12=a\sqrt 3##
##a##=##\dfrac {12}{\sqrt 3}##

Is this correct? Thanks...
No. Instead of b = 8, I get b = 1/8, and I get different values for a and c. Since the period is ##16\pi##, it must be the case that the coefficient of x is less than 1, not greater than 1. Apparently you didn't check your answers to make sure that you had the correct parameters.
 
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Mark44 said:
No. Instead of b = 8, I get b = 1/8, and I get different values for a and c. Since the period is ##16\pi##, it must be the case that the coefficient of x is less than 1, not greater than 1. Apparently you didn't check your answers to make sure that you had the correct parameters.
...sine ##90^0=1## and ##sine 30^0=0.5##
ok, i think it ought to be, ...
##11=a+c##
##10=-a+c##

giving us,
##a=0.5## and ##c=10.5##
 
chwala said:
ok, i think it ought to be, ...
##11=a+c##
##10=-a+c##

giving us,
##a=0.5## and ##c=10.5##
I don't get either of those values. Are you checking them by substituting the given points into the equation?
 
Initially i had,
##11##=##a sin 8(4π)##+##c##
##5##=## a sin 8####\left[-\frac {4π}{3}\right]##+##c##

which gives me,
##11##=##a sin 32π##+##c##
##5##=## -a sin ####\left[\dfrac {32π}{3}\right]##+##c##

and from the first equation, ##sin 32π=0##, and ## sin ####\dfrac {32π}{3}##=##\dfrac {\sqrt 3}{2}##

Are you certain that my earlier attempt is not correct?
 
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Mark44 said:
No. Instead of b = 8, I get b = 1/8, and I get different values for a and c. Since the period is ##16\pi##, it must be the case that the coefficient of x is less than 1, not greater than 1. Apparently you didn't check your answers to make sure that you had the correct parameters.
True, I see my mistake on ##b##...let me look at it again...thanks @Mark44
 
chwala said:
Initially i had,
##11##=##a sin 8(4π)##+##c##
##5##=## a sin 8####\left[-\frac {4π}{3}\right]##+##c##
The graph of ##y = a\sin(8x) + c## has a period of ##\frac{2\pi}8 = \frac \pi 4##.
This conflicts with the given condition that the period is ##16\pi##.
chwala said:
which gives me,
##11##=##a sin 32π##+##c##
##5##=## -a sin ####\left[\dfrac {32π}{3}\right]##+##c##
You're using way too many ## symbols for your LaTeX. All you need are two at the beginning and two more at the end of the expression.
chwala said:
and from the first equation, ##sin 32π=0##, and ## sin ####\dfrac {32π}{3}##=##\dfrac {\sqrt 3}{2}##

Are you certain that my earlier attempt is not correct?
Yes. I have checked my work.
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: See attached.
Relevant Equations:: trigonometry

This is the question...

View attachment 300644
My attempt on part (i),
##b=\dfrac {16π}{2π}=8##
##11=a sin 32π+c##
##c=11##
##5=-a\frac {\sqrt 3}{2} +11##
##10=-a\sqrt 3+22##
##12=a\sqrt 3##
##a=\dfrac {12}{\sqrt 3}##

Is this correct? Thanks...
##b=\dfrac {2π}{16π}=\dfrac {1}{8}##
##11=a+c##
##5=-0.5+c##

##a=4## and ##c=7##
 
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Yes, that's more like it!
 
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chwala said:
##5=-0.5+c##
I think you meant to write: ##5=-0.5a+c##
 
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SammyS said:
I think you meant to write: ##5=-0.5a+c##
Absolutely thanks.
 
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Parkeexant said:
I think it is
Lol...did you go through the entire thread?
 
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chwala said:
Lol...did you go through the entire thread?
Apparently not...
 
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