Find the unknown values in the problem involving trigonometry graphs

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The discussion centers on solving a trigonometric problem involving unknown values in a sine function. Initial calculations for the coefficient b were incorrect, with one user asserting that b should be 1/8 instead of 8, impacting the values of a and c. The correct approach involves recognizing that the period of the sine function must align with the given conditions, leading to revised equations. Substituting the correct values into the equations ultimately yields a = 4 and c = 7. The importance of verifying calculations and ensuring parameters match the problem's requirements is emphasized throughout the conversation.
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Homework Statement
See attached.
Relevant Equations
trigonometry
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My attempt on part (i),
##b=\dfrac {16π}{2π}=8##
##11=a sin 32π+c##
##c=11##
##5=-a\frac {\sqrt 3}{2} +11##
##10=-a\sqrt 3+22##
##12=a\sqrt 3##
##a=\dfrac {12}{\sqrt 3}##

Is this correct? Thanks...
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: See attached.
Relevant Equations:: trigonometry

This is the question...

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My attempt on part (i),
##b##=##\dfrac {16π}{2π}##=##8##
##11=a sin 32π+c##
##c=11##
##5##=##-a####\frac {\sqrt 3}{2}## +##11##
##10##=##-a####\sqrt 3##+##22##
##12=a\sqrt 3##
##a##=##\dfrac {12}{\sqrt 3}##

Is this correct? Thanks...
No. Instead of b = 8, I get b = 1/8, and I get different values for a and c. Since the period is ##16\pi##, it must be the case that the coefficient of x is less than 1, not greater than 1. Apparently you didn't check your answers to make sure that you had the correct parameters.
 
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Mark44 said:
No. Instead of b = 8, I get b = 1/8, and I get different values for a and c. Since the period is ##16\pi##, it must be the case that the coefficient of x is less than 1, not greater than 1. Apparently you didn't check your answers to make sure that you had the correct parameters.
...sine ##90^0=1## and ##sine 30^0=0.5##
ok, i think it ought to be, ...
##11=a+c##
##10=-a+c##

giving us,
##a=0.5## and ##c=10.5##
 
chwala said:
ok, i think it ought to be, ...
##11=a+c##
##10=-a+c##

giving us,
##a=0.5## and ##c=10.5##
I don't get either of those values. Are you checking them by substituting the given points into the equation?
 
Initially i had,
##11##=##a sin 8(4π)##+##c##
##5##=## a sin 8####\left[-\frac {4π}{3}\right]##+##c##

which gives me,
##11##=##a sin 32π##+##c##
##5##=## -a sin ####\left[\dfrac {32π}{3}\right]##+##c##

and from the first equation, ##sin 32π=0##, and ## sin ####\dfrac {32π}{3}##=##\dfrac {\sqrt 3}{2}##

Are you certain that my earlier attempt is not correct?
 
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Mark44 said:
No. Instead of b = 8, I get b = 1/8, and I get different values for a and c. Since the period is ##16\pi##, it must be the case that the coefficient of x is less than 1, not greater than 1. Apparently you didn't check your answers to make sure that you had the correct parameters.
True, I see my mistake on ##b##...let me look at it again...thanks @Mark44
 
chwala said:
Initially i had,
##11##=##a sin 8(4π)##+##c##
##5##=## a sin 8####\left[-\frac {4π}{3}\right]##+##c##
The graph of ##y = a\sin(8x) + c## has a period of ##\frac{2\pi}8 = \frac \pi 4##.
This conflicts with the given condition that the period is ##16\pi##.
chwala said:
which gives me,
##11##=##a sin 32π##+##c##
##5##=## -a sin ####\left[\dfrac {32π}{3}\right]##+##c##
You're using way too many ## symbols for your LaTeX. All you need are two at the beginning and two more at the end of the expression.
chwala said:
and from the first equation, ##sin 32π=0##, and ## sin ####\dfrac {32π}{3}##=##\dfrac {\sqrt 3}{2}##

Are you certain that my earlier attempt is not correct?
Yes. I have checked my work.
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: See attached.
Relevant Equations:: trigonometry

This is the question...

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My attempt on part (i),
##b=\dfrac {16π}{2π}=8##
##11=a sin 32π+c##
##c=11##
##5=-a\frac {\sqrt 3}{2} +11##
##10=-a\sqrt 3+22##
##12=a\sqrt 3##
##a=\dfrac {12}{\sqrt 3}##

Is this correct? Thanks...
##b=\dfrac {2π}{16π}=\dfrac {1}{8}##
##11=a+c##
##5=-0.5+c##

##a=4## and ##c=7##
 
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Yes, that's more like it!
 
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chwala said:
##5=-0.5+c##
I think you meant to write: ##5=-0.5a+c##
 
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SammyS said:
I think you meant to write: ##5=-0.5a+c##
Absolutely thanks.
 
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Parkeexant said:
I think it is
Lol...did you go through the entire thread?
 
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chwala said:
Lol...did you go through the entire thread?
Apparently not...
 
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