Find the unknown values in the problem involving trigonometry graphs

In summary, the conversation involved discussing a question related to trigonometry, specifically finding the values of a and c in a sinusoid equation. The conversation also included checking and correcting previous attempts at finding these values. Ultimately, the correct values were found to be a=4 and c=7.
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Homework Statement
See attached.
Relevant Equations
trigonometry
This is the question...

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My attempt on part (i),
##b=\dfrac {16π}{2π}=8##
##11=a sin 32π+c##
##c=11##
##5=-a\frac {\sqrt 3}{2} +11##
##10=-a\sqrt 3+22##
##12=a\sqrt 3##
##a=\dfrac {12}{\sqrt 3}##

Is this correct? Thanks...
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: See attached.
Relevant Equations:: trigonometry

This is the question...

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My attempt on part (i),
##b##=##\dfrac {16π}{2π}##=##8##
##11=a sin 32π+c##
##c=11##
##5##=##-a####\frac {\sqrt 3}{2}## +##11##
##10##=##-a####\sqrt 3##+##22##
##12=a\sqrt 3##
##a##=##\dfrac {12}{\sqrt 3}##

Is this correct? Thanks...
No. Instead of b = 8, I get b = 1/8, and I get different values for a and c. Since the period is ##16\pi##, it must be the case that the coefficient of x is less than 1, not greater than 1. Apparently you didn't check your answers to make sure that you had the correct parameters.
 
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Mark44 said:
No. Instead of b = 8, I get b = 1/8, and I get different values for a and c. Since the period is ##16\pi##, it must be the case that the coefficient of x is less than 1, not greater than 1. Apparently you didn't check your answers to make sure that you had the correct parameters.
...sine ##90^0=1## and ##sine 30^0=0.5##
ok, i think it ought to be, ...
##11=a+c##
##10=-a+c##

giving us,
##a=0.5## and ##c=10.5##
 
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chwala said:
ok, i think it ought to be, ...
##11=a+c##
##10=-a+c##

giving us,
##a=0.5## and ##c=10.5##
I don't get either of those values. Are you checking them by substituting the given points into the equation?
 
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Initially i had,
##11##=##a sin 8(4π)##+##c##
##5##=## a sin 8####\left[-\frac {4π}{3}\right]##+##c##

which gives me,
##11##=##a sin 32π##+##c##
##5##=## -a sin ####\left[\dfrac {32π}{3}\right]##+##c##

and from the first equation, ##sin 32π=0##, and ## sin ####\dfrac {32π}{3}##=##\dfrac {\sqrt 3}{2}##

Are you certain that my earlier attempt is not correct?
 
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Mark44 said:
No. Instead of b = 8, I get b = 1/8, and I get different values for a and c. Since the period is ##16\pi##, it must be the case that the coefficient of x is less than 1, not greater than 1. Apparently you didn't check your answers to make sure that you had the correct parameters.
True, I see my mistake on ##b##...let me look at it again...thanks @Mark44
 
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chwala said:
Initially i had,
##11##=##a sin 8(4π)##+##c##
##5##=## a sin 8####\left[-\frac {4π}{3}\right]##+##c##
The graph of ##y = a\sin(8x) + c## has a period of ##\frac{2\pi}8 = \frac \pi 4##.
This conflicts with the given condition that the period is ##16\pi##.
chwala said:
which gives me,
##11##=##a sin 32π##+##c##
##5##=## -a sin ####\left[\dfrac {32π}{3}\right]##+##c##
You're using way too many ## symbols for your LaTeX. All you need are two at the beginning and two more at the end of the expression.
chwala said:
and from the first equation, ##sin 32π=0##, and ## sin ####\dfrac {32π}{3}##=##\dfrac {\sqrt 3}{2}##

Are you certain that my earlier attempt is not correct?
Yes. I have checked my work.
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: See attached.
Relevant Equations:: trigonometry

This is the question...

View attachment 300644
My attempt on part (i),
##b=\dfrac {16π}{2π}=8##
##11=a sin 32π+c##
##c=11##
##5=-a\frac {\sqrt 3}{2} +11##
##10=-a\sqrt 3+22##
##12=a\sqrt 3##
##a=\dfrac {12}{\sqrt 3}##

Is this correct? Thanks...
##b=\dfrac {2π}{16π}=\dfrac {1}{8}##
##11=a+c##
##5=-0.5+c##

##a=4## and ##c=7##
 
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chwala said:
##5=-0.5+c##
I think you meant to write: ##5=-0.5a+c##
 
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SammyS said:
I think you meant to write: ##5=-0.5a+c##
Absolutely thanks.
 
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Parkeexant said:
I think it is
Lol...did you go through the entire thread?
 
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chwala said:
Lol...did you go through the entire thread?
Apparently not...
 
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1. How do I find the unknown values in a trigonometry graph?

To find the unknown values in a trigonometry graph, you will need to use the trigonometric ratios sine, cosine, and tangent. These ratios can be calculated using the known values of the triangle's sides and angles. Once you have the ratio, you can use inverse trigonometric functions to find the unknown values.

2. What are the common trigonometric ratios used in finding unknown values?

The most commonly used trigonometric ratios are sine, cosine, and tangent. These ratios relate the angles of a right triangle to the lengths of its sides. Sine is the ratio of the opposite side to the hypotenuse, cosine is the ratio of the adjacent side to the hypotenuse, and tangent is the ratio of the opposite side to the adjacent side.

3. How do I use inverse trigonometric functions to find unknown values?

Inverse trigonometric functions, such as arcsine, arccosine, and arctangent, are used to find the measure of an angle given the ratio of two sides of a right triangle. To use these functions, you will need to use a calculator or reference table to find the inverse trigonometric value of the ratio. This will give you the measure of the angle, which can then be used to find the unknown values.

4. Can I use trigonometry to find unknown values in non-right triangles?

No, trigonometry can only be used to find unknown values in right triangles. This is because the trigonometric ratios are based on the sides and angles of a right triangle. If you are given a non-right triangle, you will need to use other methods, such as the law of sines or the law of cosines, to find the unknown values.

5. Are there any tips for solving problems involving trigonometry graphs?

One helpful tip for solving problems involving trigonometry graphs is to make sure you have a clear understanding of the given information and what you are trying to find. It can also be helpful to draw a diagram and label the known values. Additionally, double-check your calculations and make sure you are using the correct trigonometric ratios and functions for the given problem.

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