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The discussion revolves around finding the exact value of the expression cos 247° + sin 293°. Participants are exploring trigonometric identities and relationships to simplify the expression.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to manipulate the expression using trigonometric identities, such as relating cos 247° to cos 23° and exploring the sine function. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the angles and the implications of subtracting from 360° to simplify calculations.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with some participants suggesting alternative methods and questioning the original formulation of the problem. While various attempts lead to similar results, no consensus has been reached on a definitive solution.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note a potential misprint in the original problem statement, suggesting that if the expression involved cos 247° + cos 293°, it would yield an exact answer. This raises questions about the clarity of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


Find the exact value of cos 247o+sin 293o


Homework Equations


trigonometry identities


The Attempt at a Solution


The furthest I can get is:

cos 247o+sin 293o
= cos 247o - cos 23o
= -2 sin 135o sin 112o
= -√2 cos 22o

Then stuck...
 
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hi independent! :smile:
songoku said:
cos 247o+sin 293o
= cos 247o - cos 23o

erm :redface: … 203 ? :wink:

hint: always subtract from 360° (if necessary), to get an angle less than 180° ! :smile:
 
247 = 270 - 23

293 = 270 + 23

cos (270 - 23) = ?
sin (270 + 23) = ?
 
tiny-tim said:
hi independent! :smile:


erm :redface: … 203 ? :wink:

hint: always subtract from 360° (if necessary), to get an angle less than 180° ! :smile:

Hi independent?? :smile:

Sorry I don't think I get your hint. cos 23o = - cos 203o. So
cos 247o + cos 203o
= 2 cos 225ocos 22o
= -√2 cos 22o


Chestermiller said:
247 = 270 - 23

293 = 270 + 23

cos (270 - 23) = ?
sin (270 + 23) = ?
cos (270 - 23) = - sin 23o
sin (270 + 23) = - cos 23o

So:
- sin 23o - cos 23o
= - sin 23o - sin 67o
= -2 sin 45o cos 22o
= - √2 cos 22o

All lead to - √2 cos 22o. Maybe it is me doing it the wrong way but I don't know how to manipulate the question in other way to give a better result

Thanks
 
hi songoku! :smile:

(sorry about the typo! :biggrin:)
songoku said:
Hi independent?? :smile:

Sorry I don't think I get your hint. cos 23o = - cos 203o.

ah, i didn't see that :redface:
All lead to - √2 cos 22o. Maybe it is me doing it the wrong way but I don't know how to manipulate the question in other way to give a better result

yes, that's the best you can do

(btw, i'd have done cos247 + sin293 = cos113 - sin67 = -cos67 - sin67 = -√2cos22 …

Chestermiller's :smile: way of course is also fine, but I'm not as familiar with cos and sin of 270° as he is, so i'd be afraid of making a mistake! :redface:)

i'l guess that when the question said "exact", it just meant "compact" o:)
 
songoku said:

Homework Statement


Find the exact value of cos 247o+sin 293o
Had it said cos 247o+cos 293o there would have been an exact answer. (Note what the two angles add up to.) Misprint perhaps?
 
tiny-tim said:
hi songoku! :smile:

(sorry about the typo! :biggrin:)


ah, i didn't see that :redface:


yes, that's the best you can do

(btw, i'd have done cos247 + sin293 = cos113 - sin67 = -cos67 - sin67 = -√2cos22 …

Chestermiller's :smile: way of course is also fine, but I'm not as familiar with cos and sin of 270° as he is, so i'd be afraid of making a mistake! :redface:)

i'l guess that when the question said "exact", it just meant "compact" o:)


haruspex said:
Had it said cos 247o+cos 293o there would have been an exact answer. (Note what the two angles add up to.) Misprint perhaps?

Maybe misprint. Thanks a lot for all the help :smile:
 

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