Find the volume of the solid obtained by rotating the area?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of solids obtained by rotating a specific area defined by the function f(x) = cos(x^2) about the y-axis and the line x=4. Participants explore methods for setting up the integrals required for these calculations, addressing both the mathematical setup and the implications of negative values in the context of volume.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • Participants propose using the shell method with respect to dx for calculating the volume of the solid.
  • One participant presents their integral setup for both parts of the problem, indicating a negative volume for the first part and a positive value for the second.
  • Another participant points out that the function cos(x^2) is negative within the specified bounds, which explains the negative result from the integral for the first part.
  • There is a suggestion that the absolute value should be taken for the volume, as negative volume is not physically meaningful.
  • Concerns are raised about the correctness of the integral setup for the second part, with a request for confirmation from others.
  • Participants express agreement on the integral setup but disagree on the expected outcomes, particularly regarding the sign of the results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the integral setups for both parts of the problem but disagree on the implications of negative values and the correctness of the answers derived from those integrals. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the final values and their interpretations.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the handling of negative values in the context of volume calculations, as well as the accuracy of the integral evaluations presented by participants.

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1.Determine the volume of the solid obtained by rotating the area between the x-axis and the graph of the function given by f(x) = cos(x^2) with x between (pi/2)^0.5 and (3pi/2)^0.5 ,about the y-axis.

2.What is the volume if the above area is rotated about the line given by x=4.

Thank you in advance
 
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For both parts, I would recommend shells with a $dx$. What progress have you made?
 
1) my equation is:inte(lower bound: (pi/2)^0.5;upper bound: (3pi/2)^0.5)2pix*(cosx^2)
2) my equation is:inte(lower bound: (pi/2)^0.5;upper bound: (3pi/2)^0.5)2pi(4-x)*(cosx^2)

I got -2pi on the frist part,can volume be negative value?
And I got 8.37 on the second part.
 
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renyikouniao said:
1) my equation is:inte(lower bound: (pi/2)^0.5;upper bound: (3pi/2)^0.5)2pix*(cosx^2)
2) my equation is:inte(lower bound: (pi/2)^0.5;upper bound: (3pi/2)^0.5)2pi(4-x)*(cosx^2)

I got -2pi on the frist part,can volume be negative value?
And I got 8.37 on the second part.

I agree with the integral you have set up for the first and the answer given by the integral. Did you notice that [math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} \cos{ \left( x^2 \right) } < 0 \end{align*}[/math] when [math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} \sqrt{ \frac{\pi}{2} } < x < \sqrt{ \frac{3\pi}{2} } \end{align*}[/math]? It makes sense that you would then get a negatively-signed answer for your integral. But since you are asked for the volume, you would need to take the absolute value, as you have already established that there is no such thing as a "negative volume". Also don't forget to write [math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} \textrm{units}\,^3 \end{align*}[/math] after.
 
Thank you.But what about the second?Is it also correct?
Prove It said:
I agree with the integral you have set up for the first and the answer given by the integral. Did you notice that [math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} \cos{ \left( x^2 \right) } < 0 \end{align*}[/math] when [math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} \sqrt{ \frac{\pi}{2} } < x < \sqrt{ \frac{3\pi}{2} } \end{align*}[/math]? It makes sense that you would then get a negatively-signed answer for your integral. But since you are asked for the volume, you would need to take the absolute value, as you have already established that there is no such thing as a "negative volume". Also don't forget to write [math]\displaystyle \begin{align*} \textrm{units}\,^3 \end{align*}[/math] after.
 

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